Drifter
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Yeah we'll see.
Same here. Had set my mind that we wouldn't be seeing him on the pitch again. Best of luck to him and I really hope this is trueI honestly had given up, great news if accurate
Why would he get a negative reception?when and if he comes back, what kind of reception do you think he will get at Old Trafford?
Cheers? Silence/Indifference? Booos (God forbid)
new haircut (?)Why would he get a negative reception?
Noway, the love for Hargreaves is in addition to his beautiful locks, not because of it.new haircut (?)
This.Meh, I'm not going to get excited with this until I see him back on the pitch with united.
Aren't 99.8% of the reactions pretty much a case of deja vu regardless of the story that the reactions are pertaining to?This.
There's a sense of deja vu with some of the reactions here.
This.Aren't 99.8% of the reactions pretty much a case of deja vu regardless of the story that the reactions are pertaining to?
Don't often get unique reactions ...
Wouldnt be wise. He's not going to be first or even second choice in any position and he's prone to being out for long spells again. And thats even in the miracle that he's just as good a player as before his injury which is very unlikely. Also, he's a glass canon playing a very physical role. Even if you told him to go steady to try and preserve what little playing career he can still have, he wouldnt be half the same player.If he is proven to be fit again he wont be going anywhere. Even in the summer.
Nah, he's much better in wide areas (right back, right mid). Take a look at Schweinsteiger, he has the qualities you've said above, but there's a significant difference in his performances and Hargreaves in the middle. One of the main reasons is that he's not running around all the time leaving the midfield open.Pogue...Im genuinely surprized that you still have reservations about Hargreaves in a central role. He is far superior to any other player at United at what he does. Hes no Scholes but as a holding player sitting in front of the back four he has no equal at United. Quick, aggressive, great motor and a great tackler...I cannot wait to see him back.
Nope. The sensible ones aren't getting too excited by yet another update. When Hargreaves comes back, plays a full 90 and looks like he's ready to come back into the first team then I'll get excited.I feel bad for not being too excited, but can you blame me?
So you believe he will come back a better player after the nearly 2 year absence and the numerous major surgeries? If so, then that explains the wildly optimistic evaluation.Pogue...Im genuinely surprized that you still have reservations about Hargreaves in a central role. He is far superior to any other player at United at what he does. Hes no Scholes but as a holding player sitting in front of the back four he has no equal at United. Quick, aggressive, great motor and a great tackler...I cannot wait to see him back.
I actually scrubbed in with Steadman many moons ago Shame, the case was just on a norm, considering all the top athletes he operates onSteadman deserves his own chant, legend.
What is this obsession people have here with putting Hargreaves in his less favoured positions? He's a brilliant defensive midfielder, and a utility back up full back or wide midfielder.Personally, if he does come back I'd stick him on the right wing or right back. See how he does there before putting him right in the middle where he's likely to get exposed.
He'll be a much lesser player if he cannot achieve such exceptional fitness after his injury. Its a big part of what made him the player he was and now its a huge ask for him to get back to that level.What is this obsession people have here with putting Hargreaves in his less favoured positions? He's a brilliant defensive midfielder, and a utility back up full back or wide midfielder.
It's hard to think of a more 'professional' player than Hargreaves. He's always had exceptional fitness and if anyone can come back at a high level after so long out, it's probably him.
you mean LW. Nani claims RW for the forseeable future.RW is open atm, because Valencia is the new Hargreaves
Bold All played the season before aswell... Also Carrick in 2007-2008 better than Hargreaves? lol...well that's bullshit. He wasn't brilliant, nor was he the difference. Ronaldo rio rooney scholes carrick tevez evra vidic brown vds etc all had better seasons. And before you talk about our cl exit the year before.. Well rio and vidic had injury problems at the time. And when was he a brilliant dm? feck me, if he's a brilliant dm then i wonder what the praise is for the dms or midfielders who play that role and are actually very good at it. I use to stick up for hargreaves a lot but its clear its better for the team when he's in wider positions. Where his energy and enthusiasm doesn't leave a hole in midfield. Edit.. Oh and his good performances in the cl came from the right wing anyway!
You overrate just how 'brilliant' Hargreaves was in midfield and seem to have forgotten that it was Fergie who used him on the right side on more then one occasion, and it was in fact the right side and not the center that he has his best games for United. So it's not my obsession to have him play there at all. If anything, you're the one who seems obsessed with the idea that a player who has been out for 2 years, who has some of the worst knees in the history of the game can just come back in, gain his fitness, be mentally prepared and go out and out perform players who've been playing and progressing while he's been enjoying the fresh mountain air in Colorado with his pal Dr Steadman.What is this obsession people have here with putting Hargreaves in his less favoured positions? He's a brilliant defensive midfielder, and a utility back up full back or wide midfielder.
It's hard to think of a more 'professional' player than Hargreaves. He's always had exceptional fitness and if anyone can come back at a high level after so long out, it's probably him.
Yes they all played in seasons before Tevez, Nani, Anderson and Hargreaves were added to the squad to take our squad depth and talent to its highest point in recent memory. This way players were able to be rested and stay fresh even at the business end of the season and our double was proof of that being the way to go.Bold All played the season before aswell... Also Carrick in 2007-2008 better than Hargreaves? lol...
Who said anything about DM? Apart from the fact he didn't leave holes in the midfield (He and Anderson vs. Liverpool), the rest of the post is nonsense... he was brilliant for us in the 2007-2008 season, look at the Barca/Arsenal performances especially.
Don't see why not. If he makes it back he'll be playing without pain and that's something he hasn't done as a United player.It's really a shame...even if Hargreaves does force his way back into the side, I cannot imagine him being the same player he was three years ago. Sadly, I see him moving on to another club in the summer.
We should ease him back in to the team as goalkeeper, that way he wont have to run to much and stress his kneesI personally would like to see him eased into the game. You know, just so he doesn't succumb to another injury. Being somewhat injury prone I'm thinking a position like right wing where he won't have some hard nose midfielder running into him might be a better option. Defensive midfield is a tough position for a man who's been out that long, we have no idea what shape he will return and how ready for the game he will be.
That's not a bad idea. He's played in goal for United before, so I'm sure he'd do a great job deputizing for EVS.We should ease him back in to the team as goalkeeper, that way he wont have to run to much and stress his knees
Steadman is yet to fail. He usually totally fixes players up. I'll be very surprised if Hargreaves returned to proper match fitness and then we moved him on in the summer.Wouldn't bank on that Chief.
Not sure he will ever be the player he once was even if fit again as his game relies so much on energy and movement. I think the coaching staff have already mentally made plans for life without him in the squad.
That just your take on things. A fully fit Hargreaves would be an asset to our side. No question.Wouldnt be wise. He's not going to be first or even second choice in any position
No he isn't. All his problems with injuries have stemmed from dodgy knees. If Steadman has worked his magic again, Hargreaves will not get injured as often any more. If at all.and he's prone to being out for long spells again.
That's a terrible assupmtion really. Many players have come back from long term injuries and have still proven to be top players or in some cases like Xavi, better than the were prio to injury. People like Alan Smith are actually the exception to the rule.And thats even in the miracle that he's just as good a player as before his injury which is very unlikely.
Still more assumptions. You just don't grasp that all his problems with injury came from dogy kness. Once those knees are completely fixed, as Steadman believes they are, he wont be getting injured as much. That should be obvious really. All this talk of a 'glass cannon' is laughable in the extreme.Also, he's a glass canon playing a very physical role. Even if you told him to go steady to try and preserve what little playing career he can still have, he wouldnt be half the same player.
You do think up some serious bullshit don't youIf we get him in the condition where he can play games, keep him till the end of the season so he can act as cover for Valencia and then when/if Valencia can come back and play his stuff before the end of the season, we can move Hargreaves on to a club where his experience and qualities are worth the long spells out, because when he plays he's one of the best players at the club. A bit like with Saha only less playing... So maybe even a lesser club than Everton.
We wouldn't be fools to give him another one once his knees are fixed. For his knees have been his one and only problem.He's also nearing the end of his contract. We'd be fools to give him another one, unless it was a pay as you play contract which he surely wouldnt be happy with.