Don't forget the coaches not playing him in the one position that he excels in and not giving him the freedom of expression
Paul Pogba - Juventus player
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Anyone remember Owen Hargreaves? Came on and was injured again within minutes of his comeback.
If everyone in real life was as good, virtuous, charitable, caring, etc as they are on the internet then the world wouldn't be such a shitty place. But the reality is people like yourself try to pretend to be perfect people when typing online, but probably are assholes like the rest of us, who aren't afraid to admit it online.
Pogba is a fraud of a footballer, he robbed this club blind for years, putting in world class performances for France, then coming back to United and looking like an amateur, getting a couple injuries every season so he can winter in Dubai. Disrupting our dressing room, and turning it into a circus. I can't stand the guy, I hope his post United career in an abject failure and I openly laughed when I read he was injured in his first start for Juventus, which took almost a year. Now you will judge me, write how you think Pogba was wronged and it was our fault, then you'll probably go offline, and laugh with your mates that he hasn't played a meaningful minute of football since he left.
No, but I don’t wish injury and personal misfortune on people because I feel they did my football team wrong. This isn’t binary. There are levels to how annoyed people feel about this and I don’t get how it’s affected some of you this much.
“Donkey” vs gaining some sort of satisfaction at someone’s body breaking down. Yeah, you got me.Jesus, so polarising. Having an issue with someone taking pleasure in someone else’s personal misfortune (as if they’d been personally wronged or Pogba’s committed some heinous crime) doesn’t mean I’ve never disliked someone in my life. I just find it weird to take it as far as some of the things I see on here when it’s just football. Save your social commentary for another time.
What's "just football" You don't know everyone, you don't know what it means to them. For some people the success of their football club is all they have. I mean if it was "just football" we'd watch the game on saturdays and nothing else, but the reality is we're on here all the time, probably following news on social media, watching clips or shows on Youtube, we're feeling like shit the day after a loss, feeling on top of the world the day after a trophy, because it's clearly more than "just football" So when someone is such a disruptive force to the thing that brings people pleasure and pain then people might have emotions tied to their opinions of them.No, but I don’t wish injury and personal misfortune on people because I feel they did my football team wrong. This isn’t binary. There are levels to how annoyed people feel about this and I don’t get how it’s affected some of you this much.
Jesus, so polarising. Having an issue with someone taking pleasure in someone else’s personal misfortune (as if they’d been personally wronged or Pogba’s committed some heinous crime) doesn’t mean I’ve never disliked someone in my life. I just find it weird to take it as far as some of the things I see on here when it’s just football. Save your social commentary for another time.
Darmian now will have a CL runner up medal in his pocket, in addition to his achievements in being a Serie A and Europe League winner.
So according to some here, he has achieved more than 90% of footballers in the world.
So according to some here, he has achieved more than 90% of footballers in the world.
So you think he faked the injuries to go winter in Dubai AND laughed when it took him a year to play for Juve because of…injury.
Ok.
Yes and yes. If you fell for the fraud, good on you.
The good thing about Pogba leaving last summer is that we(caftards) ended our obsession with him.
Against Wolves, if my memory isn't deceiving me. I wonder though, Was that before or after we began experimenting on him?
Paul has another season of recovery attempts before he is forced to retire. I thought he might hang on for 2 years, but this is declining rapidly.
Pogba has starred in, scored in and won a World Cup final. He's been named in multiple Teams of the Year/Season (UEFA, FIFA, Serie A, PL, EL) and top 20s for the Ballon d'Or.
You are being awfully dense, obviously on purpose.
Think you need to broaden your social spehere if you imagine all people are like this
Those accomplishments put him comfortably over 99.9995% of all football players in the history of the game.
The only mistake Ole made regarding Pogba was not selling him when the player wanted out in 2019.
Anyway good luck to Pogba, hope the injury isnt too bad and he can get back to his old Juventus form and enjoy playing again
Anyway good luck to Pogba, hope the injury isnt too bad and he can get back to his old Juventus form and enjoy playing again
Pogba was no different for France and United, this has to be one of the biggest myth around.
Apparently Juventus only want €10m (£8.5m) for Pogba this summer
He was really good on the rare occasion that he showed up, it’s quite sad his stock is now so low at a point he should be in his prime
He was really good on the rare occasion that he showed up, it’s quite sad his stock is now so low at a point he should be in his prime
Pogbackbackback?
Looks destined for KSA league. Not suited for top clubs and don't think he has it in him to be the main man at a smaller club.
Serves right those smug juve fans who thought they got the better deal twice.
missed him so much since he left.
said none of us.
Fraud.
said none of us.
Fraud.
+1
Different role, different circumstances. You also have to wonder how much they missed him when he was out.
I doubt Pogba has ever faked injury but what he has repeated history of doing is surrounding himself with people who give him bad advice. He should have taken the surgery option he was advised to do but decided against it at Juve, this is in the recent BBC article, and at United there was a similar instance where Mou even said in a presser something about him doing too much fitness work at home, the club warned him about it and then he overdid it and injured his hamstring.
Pogs has always been an enigma. He clearly has bags of talent but for whatever reason.. laziness, thinking too much of himself.. he always appears in that "What if.." category.
He is neither someone that busts a gut for 90 minutes or someone that changes every game, so he appears in that middle ground and that place is always expendable.
His off-field lifestyle hasn't always helped the perception we have of him either, but SAF got it spot on by letting him go, he isn't the type of player we want.
Good luck to him but we are onwards and upwards.
He is neither someone that busts a gut for 90 minutes or someone that changes every game, so he appears in that middle ground and that place is always expendable.
His off-field lifestyle hasn't always helped the perception we have of him either, but SAF got it spot on by letting him go, he isn't the type of player we want.
Good luck to him but we are onwards and upwards.
Yeah, absolutely not.
I would take him back at that price and reasonable wages.
Possibly a player who's reputation never justified his ability or talent.
Good player but unfortunately came to prominence during the YT/Social Media explosion where highlights and clips go viral.
Never was the player he was marketed to be.
Good player but unfortunately came to prominence during the YT/Social Media explosion where highlights and clips go viral.
Never was the player he was marketed to be.
I think the club and fans got sucked into the whole "United let him leave for pennies" thing. It ended up being imperative for the club and fans to being him home to avoid embarrassment. That ended up being a bad move.
In hindsight we should have avoided the move altogether or brought in other midfielders and waited for his Juve contract to run down so we could maybe get him at a lower cost.
His injury problems and attitude would have needed to be different but even in his periods of fitness we didn't get the best out if him and it speaks to how badly run the club was from the top to the bottom.
In hindsight we should have avoided the move altogether or brought in other midfielders and waited for his Juve contract to run down so we could maybe get him at a lower cost.
His injury problems and attitude would have needed to be different but even in his periods of fitness we didn't get the best out if him and it speaks to how badly run the club was from the top to the bottom.
10m...
They'll have to pay someone that to take him and pay his wages. But it's Juve they'll manage to make it look like they still made a profit.
They'll have to pay someone that to take him and pay his wages. But it's Juve they'll manage to make it look like they still made a profit.
Us being shite during his years was the biggest reason the myth around his talent or potential still continues. He has had worse availability than Martial in the last 3 years or so and even when he played, we could barely get any consistency out of him. Him leaving just before Ten Hag was one less big issue for him to deal with.
To be fair, I also wouldn't trust the medical team in charge of Jones.
The fact we had another big deal lined up for him says all you need to hear about how we’ve been run.
ETH would have axed him. Not available, big money, big ego or personality (for better or worse) Couldn’t or wouldn’t put in the work. Made us super easy to press. He’d have been out the door along with Ronadlo. Football has moved on and you can’t carry players like this, not for 90 million or even now on a free transfer.
I shudder thinking about the fact that we had offered him a new, big contract. The only good thing he has done for us is rejecting that.
Am far from being a fan, but SAF didn't let him go, he left.
Who remembers the horror of having Gibson and Rafael in midfield!
Was so excited when we signed him, i thought he'd elevate us to a the next level, we were crying out for an athletic CM who could carry the ball.
Never been so disappointed with how a signing has turned out before, awful signing.
Never been so disappointed with how a signing has turned out before, awful signing.
Do we now have the magical midfield to get the best of him or nah?
He'll probably go to Saudi. He's just not as interested in football as he is in his other "ambitions".