I wouldn't buy into that statement too much as it could have been said tongue in cheek. Context is everything and all that.
Pogba would sell his gran and her dog for a move to PSG if Raiola is to be believed.
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Pogba would sell his gran and her dog for a move to PSG if Raiola is to be believed.
And there in lies the issue. Raiola is a cnut, and you can't trust a word that comes out of his mouth.
As I said, the evidence for me points more to him not fancying PSG move, than him wanting it.
All the links just smack of your typical tabloid bs that comes up every summer for Man Utd transfers both in and out. Add to the fact that we talking about Pogba, a divisive figure among fans, and that's a "journalists" wet dream for clicks.
At best its Raiola trying to use it as a ploy to get a better deal for his player, at worst, he is trying to put pressure on PSG to make an offer.
*You can swap worse or best between the 2 depending on which side of the Pogba debate you stand, mind you.
End of the day, I am all for Muppets drinking the koolaid when we getting giddy for a player we want, but let's not drink everything the media spouts when it comes to Pogba matters, as there is clearly a deliberate effort to play on fans fickle views for their benefit, whether journalists or that fat cnut.
Some absolute gutter shit fans of this forum. Get behind our players and our team ffs.
I think there are two sides to this thread: the over the top Pogba haters who'll hate anything he does and the Pogba fan boys/girls who will make ridiculous statements like "he's our best player", "world class" etc etc. Both groups are out to lunch. Pogba is a useful player with flaws who is looking to get paid way above his market value. I'd be perfectly fine keeping him, but wouldn't be too bothered if he ultimately left since there are enough suitable replacements that may add more balance to our squad.
Madrid is too smart to sign him. They never bothered when they had the money and won't try if he is a free agent next summer. Juventus will be lining up to sign him on a free contract. They are not going to come and pay a fee for him.
Also that comment, context and all, was pretty damning. Including his mother and father into it, makes it quiet serious to me, rather than tongue in cheek.
I think they did try to get him when Jose was around, but with the long contract he still had, Man Utd dug their heels in and didn't budge.
But as time went by things went pear shape at RM and made that option no longer viable.
I told this when Jose was here and people wouldn't listen. That's how you become a super fan.
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The case with Pogba has always been a rather vocal group of ‘fans’ have never been able to fathom the guy might want to be here so they critique the most random things.
Some idiot was say he was carried to every trophy he’s ever won earlier, it’s truly bizarre.
Not gonna click on that
Let's not feed stupidity.
I'll get behind when he proves he's not holding the club to ransom by renewing his contract.
I mean it's obviously a lie but it would indeed be hilarious watching klopp lose his mind at pogba
Hardly ransom to be fair, didn't Rooney do something similar until the squad was strengthened?
You have absolutely nailed it with the below statement, however also can understand people who have valid concerns about just how much effort he will put in if he's leaving on a free at the end of the season.
I think we should try to offload other players like Lingard, Bailly, even Martial under condition there is a good enough offer and go for a midfielder because we need one regardless of Pogba going or not.
It feels like Zidane wanted him more than Madrid did. When they want a player, the world knows it. Also the underwhelming feeling he is staying as nobody will pay for him where he wants to go
IMO That sounds like Riola putting a story out to make Utd take note and consider the most damaging outcome possible if they don’t offer enough to get Pogba to agree to a further contract.
It’s Pogba’s representative saying that Pogba will be quite happy to play for Utd’s most bitter rivals and Utd will now have to consider the national and international backlash from their supporters if they allow it to happen.
Liverpool won’t sign him but they’ll be laughing their cocks off - and that isn’t funny.
Pogba is outrageous - Raiola offered Pogba to City not long ago and, while City weren’t interested, the fact remains that he wouldn’t have done that if Pogba wasn’t happy to go to City.
In short; IMO The headline means nothing other than that team Pogba need a counterbalance to hedge their bets in their negotiations with PSG and, with that in mind, they are looking to use every dirty trick to strong-arm a better deal out of Utd so that they don’t get cornered into taking less than the maximum possible returns from PSG.
I could be wrong but there’s a pattern of behaviour becoming evident and it’s all pointing in one direction.
People on this forum told me Romano repeats what other journalist report. This is weird.
Its Liverpool Echo. Doubt Riola has even heard about them
If he doesn’t go he will be a valuable bench impact player. We may as well keep him to come on and change games. Aside from that we need to get our working first XI system firing on all cylinders. Which does not include pogba
That was very genuine and heartfelt.
I don’t know how many people really buy into the shite peddled by the unscrupulous among our media but hopefully it’s actually fewer people than you think - a mouthy minority. I’d like to think Pogba ignores those sort of people anyway. I don’t know the truth but Pogba does and so do the people that matter.
I alluded to this idea in another post somewhere: the planets (in terms of the players coming into the squad around him) are potentially aligning for him; could be his best year for us. I agree he is a pleasure to watch sometimes and I’d love it if he proved me and the other doubters wrong.
Well if he doesn’t go this summer, you can count on him performing at a very high level to either get a lucrative contract from us or to get offers from other teams in Jan or next summer. The team should at least benefit from that.
It will be feckin stupid to lose him for free twice and not winning the league. So hope this decision pays off.
The board will cave and give him a big contract so he doesn't go on a free. Pretty obvious Pogba and his greedy agent just want more money and they ain't in a lose lose situation
Either get more money, or move on next year for that money as they won't be any fee involved.
He'll sign a contract.
Either get more money, or move on next year for that money as they won't be any fee involved.
He'll sign a contract.
By that merit we can’t talk or criticise about any semi-pro onwards players?
Are observers not allowed opinion because we don’t have comparable traits?
Where did I even begin to compare my footballing abilities, or mentality with Pogba’s? I wasn’t I was comparing Pogba’s mentality to Fernandes’ - do you think they aren’t comparable? Looking at the past season and a half who do you think has gave more to the club?
I think I must have missed the World Cup final that United played in, which tournament was that? Hell I don’t even see Pogba playing in our last Champion’s League finals!
If I were Pogba, I would sign. You have no higher profile at a club than at United (social media heaven); new WC players have joined (more media spotlight and chance to win trophies); financial stability (barring state-sponsored clubs); best mates are there; no need to uproot. Just pushing for higher wages.
If I were United's decision - makers I would sell though.
I am 100% certain Pogba will stay. Going to PSG in a lesser league would be a massive step down.
If I were United's decision - makers I would sell though.
I am 100% certain Pogba will stay. Going to PSG in a lesser league would be a massive step down.
I invite you to appreciate the difference in output/performances between Pogba and Lewandowski, and while you are at it - the difference between United and Dortmund.
Even if the action of a player would damage the club not only financially but also the club's prestige?
We have to blindly support all our players regardless of their action, that's your point? This is one of the biggest nonsenses I've come across here.
Let's just sell him.
And I don't like this dichotomy. I will still wish Pogba to do well if he takes to the pitch in united colors. Not once would I will a united player or manager to fail. And I am not doing that. He's a great player that would work in a different club, not our club. Get him out so we can all move on. We let Becks, Ruud and Ronaldo go FFS. Pogba can't even be mentioned in the same sentence.
Is anybody on Liverpool above 250k? Can’t imagine them giving out 400k/week contracts.
Klopp would have made us a perennial contender with our resources, man. Yet we had to watch him give the dippers their first league title in forever.
What does adult disneyland mean, woody?
Agree. I dont think deserves a raise nor can we afford to let him leave on a free. Ideally he'd stay on the same wages and stay but if he doesn't want to, we'd be fools to increase his salary or let him play for another year and walk away. And if nobody buys him, he can sit in the stands and waste a full year of his career.
I'd even wish him all the best whether he'd leave or stay. But that doesn't exclude him or anyone from fair criticism. We don't want to be those dippers who supported Suarez back then do we?
It looks like no one is paying him what he wants this summer and, more generally, clubs are not really keen to bid for him either.
His best bet is to leave on a free I guess.
His best bet is to leave on a free I guess.
Well, I'm just hoping agent Varane, Bruno, and Rashford is working hard daily to convince him to stay.
I want to see Pogba alongside Sancho, Shaw, Cavani, Maguire, Rashford, Greenwood, Martial, Varane, and Bruno in our 21/22 season. That thought alone makes me excited for the new season.
I want to see Pogba alongside Sancho, Shaw, Cavani, Maguire, Rashford, Greenwood, Martial, Varane, and Bruno in our 21/22 season. That thought alone makes me excited for the new season.
Agreed. He's going to leave on a free transfer to madrid next summer as thats where he really wants to go. Madrid will sign Mbappe by next summer and it wouldnt suprise me if Mbappe asked for Pogba to be signed as a condition of his transfer. They have a good relationship on the pitch for France.
Speaking of Mbappe at least he had the decency to be honest with PSG and tell them he wasn't going to sign a new deal and that the club should sell him this summer so they get some money for him. Pogba wouldn't do that.
Every summer its the same circus with Pogba. Like others have posted on here, he should be given an ultimatum. Sign by date x or your getting sold. Refuse to go and you can rot in the reserves. But Ole and Utd are too weak to do that.
Yes, exactly! One more year, and more specifically this year, and he might well find that he wants to stay and help bring glory to United and no one else. It really is on a knife edge.
I think that my first reaction to Pogba signing for Liverpool was one of indifference says a lot about my feelings on the player.
Obviously just standard Raiola nonsense though, no way he fits Klopp's criteria or that Liverpool would pay his wages.
If it's true about PSG no longer seeing the transfer as viable, there's no chance he's leaving this summer.
Obviously just standard Raiola nonsense though, no way he fits Klopp's criteria or that Liverpool would pay his wages.
If it's true about PSG no longer seeing the transfer as viable, there's no chance he's leaving this summer.