Paul Scholes 1 or 2 champions leagues ?

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Both wikipedia and BBC list Paul Scholes with 2 champions league wins, 1999 and 2008.

Surely this is wrong; he was suspended in 1999 for the final so for me doesn't count as a winner.

Opinions ?
 
He played in the tournament and helped United get to the final. So why would he not be counted as a winner?

If a player plays till the finals and is dropped from the team for the final game and the team wins, he shouldn't get a medal? In this case Scholes was suspended but it's the same.
 
Gary Neville has two also, Pique has 07/08.

Both barely played.
 
Personally I don't give credit to anyone who doesn't play all 13 games. Fecking freeloaders.
 
Skills said:
Personally I don't give credit to anyone who doesn't play all 13 games. Fecking freeloaders.
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I wouldn't give a league medal to anyone who hasn't played all 38 league games.
 
Why the feck was Keano given a medal?
 
foolsgold said:
Both wikipedia and BBC list Paul Scholes with 2 champions league wins, 1999 and 2008.

Surely this is wrong; he was suspended in 1999 for the final so for me doesn't count as a winner.

Opinions ?
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2 obviously.
 
Definitely two. He contributed to getting to the final, so of course he deserves a medal.
 
foolsgold said:
It's a cup competition, if you don't play in the final you don't get a medal. It's generally accepted practice, you don't get a medal for playing in earlier rounds.

Why on earth would it count ?
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Really?
 
foolsgold said:
It's a cup competition, if you don't play in the final you don't get a medal. It's generally accepted practice, you don't get a medal for playing in earlier rounds.

Why on earth would it count ?
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You better not tell that to Keane, he might bite your head off if you try to take his medal away.
 
foolsgold said:
It's a cup competition, if you don't play in the final you don't get a medal. It's generally accepted practice, you don't get a medal for playing in earlier rounds.

Why on earth would it count ?
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Ei? Harsh! I didn't play in the final for our county cup but still got a medal. Why? Because had I not scored and won a penalty in the quarter final, the team wouldn't even be in the final. FFS even Vermaelen got a medal for his 10 minute UCL cameo last season for Barca
 
winning a cup competition isn't jus winning one game, it takes a huge ask to simply get to the final, players who participate in the competition but not the final are winners in my book as they helped the team.
 
foolsgold said:
It's a cup competition, if you don't play in the final you don't get a medal. It's generally accepted practice, you don't get a medal for playing in earlier rounds.

Why on earth would it count ?
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How the feck would the players who played in the final win it if their team-mates didn't contribute in getting them there in the first place?
The most stupid shit I've ever read.
 
foolsgold said:
It's a cup competition, if you don't play in the final you don't get a medal. It's generally accepted practice, you don't get a medal for playing in earlier rounds.

Why on earth would it count ?
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Wut?

You're trolling, surely?
 
You know just thinking about this, it's massively disrespectful to your team mates who didn't play in said final but contributed to getting the team there to say shit like Scholes and Keane did
 
League winners medal has always been different, iirc you need to play 12 games or something to qualify?

Again, might be different now.
 
What's the point of semi-finals, quarters and all those earlier rounds anyway? I say scrap all that and draw lots for any cup final. Whatever 11+subs win that day take medals. No more contention whatsoever.
 
Wrong in your eyes or not, UEFA give 40 medals to the team, and there don't appear to be any requirements in terms of games played to get one of those, so anybody with a medal around their neck is classed as a winner. That's just the way it is. It essentially just boils down to opinions with regards to who is deserving, and we know how things work out when it's a matter of opinion.
 
UEFA should get Geoff Shreeves to do the medal ceremony and individually inform every player whethsr they're really a Champions League winner or not.
 
Roy Keane has a champions league medal and Paul Scholes has two. They can pretend they don't recognise the '99 one but I guarantee they are proud of it sitting in their cabinet at home.

The rules years ago (for the FA cup anyway) were that only the players in the final got a medal and I think even if you were sent off in the final you didn't get a medal (Moran?) but that was a rudiculous rule and anyone that thinks it should go back to that is also ridiculous
 
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