They were in Serie A. Middle drawer at best.
Paulo Dybala
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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I honestly can't understand how this is anything but a fantastic deal for us.
a) We get to get rid off Lukaku.
b) We don't have to take Inter's offer of lesser money spread over a longer duration.
c) We won't just be selling Lukaku without buying any replacement.
d) It's a player who was world class till a season ago.
e) It's not Jesse Lingard.
f) It's not Juan Mata.
g) It's not Jesse Lingard. This can't be emphasized enough.
h) Even if he turns out to be another Di Maria, moving him on in a year or two will be pretty easy.
It really is such a no brainer when you see some of the absolute crap we have in our attack and are being given Dybala for bloody Lukaku.
a) We get to get rid off Lukaku.
b) We don't have to take Inter's offer of lesser money spread over a longer duration.
c) We won't just be selling Lukaku without buying any replacement.
d) It's a player who was world class till a season ago.
e) It's not Jesse Lingard.
f) It's not Juan Mata.
g) It's not Jesse Lingard. This can't be emphasized enough.
h) Even if he turns out to be another Di Maria, moving him on in a year or two will be pretty easy.
It really is such a no brainer when you see some of the absolute crap we have in our attack and are being given Dybala for bloody Lukaku.
Hopefully that's the case (Ole pushing it becuase he has a plan) as long as we sort the rest of the team as well. Put it this way i'd rather miss out on Dybala than Maguire.
Is he close with Aguero or Otamendi? They can be neighbours.
Has Ben Yedder or Dembele come out and said they would love to play for United? In fact Dembele said he wants to focus on Lyon. Why do you want him then? He doesn’t have the “desire” to come here.
Haha no chance, Team Lingard would be chasing shadows for 90 minutes.
Maguire isn't going to disrepect his current club.
It's madness to think our players don't care about the club. The best ones always do.
Haha think we got that covered with Pogba and Rojo.
A team with 1 Jesse Lingard is bad enough, I can't imagine what one with 11 would be like.
Don't forget Romero too!
Nah, no need. He’ll have Rojo & Romero.
But by your reasoning he doesn’t absolutely want to come here. Then why sign him? Isn’t Dybala doing the same thing? He is saying he wants to stay at his current club hence respecting his club.
But he's local and loves Manchester so that's fine.
too many people in this forum expect professional footballers to act like themselves, United fans. this is their career.
He's not even said that since these rumors began!
Explain that.
I’m just going off the media reports to prove a point.
JLingz and dabbing overload?
Might as well say 11 of myself/yourself being die hard United fans would beat 11 Di Maria’s because we’d “die for the shirt”, the same way Fellaini did.
Get a fecking grip. There’s this thing called talent too which matters just a tiny bit...
But he only scored 5 in a weaker league last year. I'd be surprised if he even matched Lukaku's 12 this season.
I think we need to get our hands on any half decent player we can get, we arent in a position of power here. If it fall's through our season is going to be drastically harder, its not like we will have much time to find a replacement and so far we still only have added James and AWB to the squad. We are thin on the ground in terms of talent.
I think you’re right. There’s nearly always some annoying media twist with United.
His agent wouldn’t be in London negotiating a deal if Dybala didn’t want to come.
You said a player must absolutely “want” to play for United. He must have the desire to come here. Well he hasn’t shown anything like that. He has been quiet for two months. Why not put in a transfer request to move things along?
Spot on mate. The reality is that if there was anyone on here who got offered a contract by Liverpool - they would jump at the chance and be kissing the badge, just an an example.
Don't forget how young he is as well.
His latest picture, about a week or two ago, was with Otamendi. Pogba, Romero and Rojo are also here. Quite a contingent in fact.
Although, not sure if anyone is good with Rojo.
Wtf. What’s the catch in this, got to be one surely?
It's possible to love your career and to have a passion for the work your business does. If you do, your output is better.
In a sport of XI versus XI, those small margins make a huge difference.
Think the catch has just been removed. Until now we thought some sort of cash was to exchange hands.
Ah yes the future of our team. Need more of JLingz and lesser of Dybala's of the world.
Yep Dybala for Lukaku . Not sure that has sunk in yet for some
You're affirming the consequent.
Transfer request - and lose a massive sum of money? Could be £3-4million quid for all we know. When the transfer is likely to happen anyway, would you throw away an absolute fortune, just so some idiots on a forum can think you “really really want to go to Man Utd?”
With a midfield pjanic rabiot ramsey
+ ronaldo you need the other people to run a lot
They really don’t need a player like Dybala
+ ronaldo you need the other people to run a lot
They really don’t need a player like Dybala
Honestly I think this is just a case of both teams wanting what the other one does. Both are valued similarly but they have opposite skill sets that each respective manager is coveting for their team. It is just a perfect storm. But one I can see more of in the future. With fees out of control these types of trades should be more and more common.
I can't shake the feeling that this just isn't going to happen regardless of what the reports say. It just stinks of one of those for me.
Yep, just because it makes no sense.
I think we've long left the kind of footballing world where players have a deep love for the clubs they play. The entire sport is a business and that's how we should expect players to treat it as well. Dybala, disinterested or not (this is hugely debatable as well), still possesses infinite more amounts of goals and talents that a so called passionate guy like Lingard.
This is a no risk deal for us and if things go south, we'd easily recover our "money" and get in good money for him. I rather have Lukaku out and Dybala in than Lukaku out and no one in.
Ronaldo doesn't play as a number 10, if Dybala was as sensational as to justify been paid more the second highest wage in the league, he better be good enough to justify playing him in apparently the only position he is great at. Whether you bring in Ronaldo or not.
but thats next year (if we do sign one next year) in the mean time we are asking Pogba do show defensive disipline which he has struggled with. Not to mention it would certainly limit Pogba.
And yes it one formation, but it means we have to always play a formation that has a number 10. 433 becomes a no no.
Their is more of risk bringing players to a new league, thats why transfers between premier league clubs are normally more expensive. The risk is higher, so putting him on such a mental contract is more fool hardy.
Well firstly I don't thin Dybala is an exceptional talent, really good yep, exceptional no for me no, would a club swap an exceptional talent for Lukaku? A really good striker yes exceptional no, Would a club put an exceptional talent on the wing out of position? No.
I would say people made the same exceptional talent argument about Sanchez, saying you can't buy pass a player like that becuase of wages..... People just get overly excited about a big flashy name. You do some times pass on even exceptional talents (which I don't think Dybala is) if its the wrong deal.
Yes but we didn't put Di Maria on the second biggest contract in premier league history. If it doesn't work out we would need wages to rise massively to make him sellable.
Not to mention that if is adding to our ever growing reputation, that we will pretty much pay what ever a player asks. Which is becoming a real problem.
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Reports suggest he doesn't fancy United or England. We're discussing that possibility. If it's false, then so be it.
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