His signings remind me of Wenger’s in his last 5-10 years.
'Pep' Guardiola sack watch
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
His side don't look anywhere near match fit. Already playing catch up to Liverpool and hoping they'll burn out is a risky strategy.
13 months since he won the league with 98 points... I think it'll be a little time yet.
Pep has to adapt to the fact modern football is geared towards havibg the traits that worked best agianst his style. Playing about the back with Pique and Xavi that forced sides to come out and fill in the gaps is gone. Teams let them have it out wide, press the passing through the middle and hit them hard on transitions.
He is in real danger of being left behind
He is in real danger of being left behind
You think he is going to sign a new contract?
Anyone thinking his transfer record with them has been mostly horrendous ? Most of his signings looked crap or never that good. Only few of them succeeded. Overall the best players for them under his tenure were ones he actually inherited like KDB, D.Silva, Sterling, Fernandinho etc.
His only signings whom I think looked good for them were Walker, B.Silva and Ederson. Maybe you can say Jesus if you're pushing it.
Otherwise, awful transfers.
His only signings whom I think looked good for them were Walker, B.Silva and Ederson. Maybe you can say Jesus if you're pushing it.
Otherwise, awful transfers.
He doesn't look so special when he doesn't have world class players in every position, it's as simple as that. Looking at that City team he fielded today I'd say only De Bruyne is in the bracket of player.
Never done 5 seasons at one club before this is his 5th at City.
Couple more performances like that he'll be gone.
Spent millions on defenders but 2 passes your through their midfield and the defence crumbles.
Same old same old it seems he never learns.
Couple more performances like that he'll be gone.
Spent millions on defenders but 2 passes your through their midfield and the defence crumbles.
Same old same old it seems he never learns.
Does Pep have a say in City's transfer strategy? Their signings have not really strenghened them. In fact, they still depended on a spine of Kompany, Fernandinho, Silva and Aguero.
Bernardo Silva was a good buy, but others not so much.
Bernardo Silva was a good buy, but others not so much.
Good post
Honestly I don't know. I think if he's not in a title race come December he won't be offered one. I rate him but if he leaves with 2 titles in 5 seasons he doesn't deserve one.
He has said himself he has to earn it.
Brilliant manager. Shouldn't even be in the same sentence as sacking.
Wait 2-4 weeks and you'll see them get going. They should also get some injuried players coming back by then.
Wait 2-4 weeks and you'll see them get going. They should also get some injuried players coming back by then.
Rodri was supposed to provide steel to their midfield and stop counter attacks. But he's been very underwhelming.
Agreed
Interesting game against Leeds next week. They won’t sit back and will go at City, thats when City struggle.
Thats an understatment, he's fecking useless defensively. If Pep does leave I'd wager he'll be the first one out the door or moved into a no.8 spot.
I say this as someone who really wanted City to beat Liverpool to the title this year (nobody else will get close)
Pep and whoever is in charge of transfers at City have been almost criminally negligent this last 2/3 seasons
Pep and whoever is in charge of transfers at City have been almost criminally negligent this last 2/3 seasons
Has he ever done a rebuild job at any club he's been at? Looking back, they had some cracking businesses done under Mancini, now those players have left/are on last legs, and young 'uns haven't steped up. They should've just spent those couple of millions extra and gotten their main defensive targets in, rather than haggling and eventually, moving to alternatives. Not sure how much Messi can still add to this team if he does come next season, that's if Pep is still there after the season. Oh, well, another free run at it for scousers.
The one good signing they made in recent years was Sane and they sold him.
It’s an interesting question.
Recruiting the two Barcelona backroom boys Begiristain and Soriano was supposed to pave the way to City morphing into Pep golden era Barcelona. Most of the players you mention were signed not just pre-Pep, but pre those two as well. It goes to show that just parachuting in a few key individuals from a successful organisation doesn’t guarantee that success can be replicated.
Only needs £300m for some fullbacks.
De Bruyne, Sterling, Fernandinho, D. Silva, Aguero and Kompany.
All at City before Pep, all been their best players under Pep. None of them have even come close to being replaced as one by one they get older/move on
Found out as a fraud long ago. Klopp and Poch rattled him and he's never recovered since, modern day Keegan...
Its not like Pep's Barcelona were successful owing to their recruitment either, it was a once in a generation academy output.
Messi was now or never. He has a look of distance and resignation from his team when it doesnt click
Yep.
If we're talking transfer strategy then Klopp-era Liverpool have probably gotten the most value for their signings with Mane, Salah, Alisson, Van Dijk, Fabinho and Robertson.
Not sure how he was kept on after last season. Flattered to deceive in the CL once more, knock out of the FA Cup by a rookie manager, allowed a team win its first league title for 30 years with 8 games to spare.
City might have broken him like Madrid did for Mourinho.
Almost had me there, good one!
Edwards-era Liverpool
This mofo is gonna have all that money and allow Liverpool to grab two titles uncontested? Never in the history of football has there been a more sackable offence.
No, Liverpool signed plenty of shit with Edwards before Klopp arrived. Markovic, Lambert, Balotelli, Iago Aspas, Luis Alberto, Benteke. Or am I wrong? Was that not Edwards?
His net spend at city is -568mil €
Rodgers signings?
After his spend and the vast resources that went into the preparation to have him at the helm, if he loses 5 before the turn of the year and is 10+ adrift of Liverpool by then, he shouldn’t be offered a new contract.
The argument has been done to death here, but he had a fantastic spine when he arrived and some great players who only packed in the previous season when Pellegrini was completely undermined by his announcement.
He has spent an absolute fortune. 2 leagues and 0 CL in five seasons with his resources isn’t even underwhelming, it would be bordering on criminal. They would be mad to offer him a new deal.
They could have saved themselves a lot of time and money and brought in any number of top coaches.
The argument has been done to death here, but he had a fantastic spine when he arrived and some great players who only packed in the previous season when Pellegrini was completely undermined by his announcement.
He has spent an absolute fortune. 2 leagues and 0 CL in five seasons with his resources isn’t even underwhelming, it would be bordering on criminal. They would be mad to offer him a new deal.
They could have saved themselves a lot of time and money and brought in any number of top coaches.
Anyway, even as a Barca fan I can admit that Pep is a very flawed manager. A good coach, but he has some very obvious flaws.
No need to leave out the cups he won mate. Other clubs would happily include the cups too. Hell, people are still praising Mourinho for winning a League Cup.
It is funny how so many in the Caf are under the delusion that there are many better managers than Pep in world football, and that sacking the manager brings instant reward.