Then it isn't a breach of contract. Why pay him the same to go as to stay in case we need him or can loan him out?
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Then it isn't a breach of contract. Why pay him the same to go as to stay in case we need him or can loan him out?
That was a YEAR ago. So lets assume its still his knee. Whats wrong with it then? Whens he coming back? What about all the other questions I asked? :roll:
So many questions yet unanswered despite this guy hanging around the club for the better part of the last 4-5 years barely playing.
As I said, you know feck all. Just like everyone else.
He has refused to go in loan before, so he is not going on now for half a season. And God help us if we need him.
I do not see any advantage of keeping him. It is a reminder of how much we have fallen and how mediocrity is tolerated. We have to pay that money to him anyway, but we don’t owe him a place in the first team, or for him to be at the club.
Because he may be disgruntled with how he's being treated and it might be better for squad unity and morale to move someone like that on?
But that is very different from the suggestion that I responded to which was to get rid of him by unilaterally breaking his contract "like Barca do".
If he was a risk to moral or whatever I'm sure we would have paid him out. But we didn't.
Barca also breaks the contract in this manner: either by paying some money so the player can leave on free and join some other club (mutual consent), or if the player does not want, by paying every penny on the remaining contract. I am advocating for either of these options, although we know that the first option is not acceptable for Jones. So just pay him what we have to pay anyway.
Everybody can rest easy now. Phil is fine.
More a sign that it wasn't run properly, past tense.
I hate arguing with people who shift goalposts. Never mind.
Bigger question are Williams and Tuanzebe? Why we didn't sell/loan them? Surely we could have find club for them.
Both injured I think. Unsurprisingly.
Here come a scenario, may be this unique case only, to subsidize his wage 100% and loan him out for a season. You just want him to dirt his boots. Or simply pay off his outstanding contract and clear his locker, say goodluck or that
This is a pathetic thread. He has injury issues and is under contract. Why can’t just leave him alone?
Leave him alone, it's not his fault that we give him a long term contract. Anyone of us here wouldn't give up 60-80k a week wages if we were him.
We can only hope (I know) he can get rid of his injuries problem and come back to contribute to the team wherever possible.
We can only hope (I know) he can get rid of his injuries problem and come back to contribute to the team wherever possible.
Especially when you are terribly injury prone and you know this is your last big contract.
Too late now but if they had took his no off him and given it to Verane last season, he may have fecked off out of embarrassment.
If he does that for few games, we will trigger his one plus year.
Goodnight sweet prince.
I don't think that he will be too much unhappy with that.
Oh no, anyway...
Exactly. Doesn’t change his situation. He was never going to play regardless.
I guess he is still happier with that than to take a pay cut and try to restart his career elsewhere.
I genuinely don't think he can. He played a handful of minutes last year and has not appeared since so I doubt playing again at any level is very likely at this point. It has been suggested that the injuries and the online abuse affected him pretty badly with regards to his mental health and so it is likely that the club is probably just doing right by him by not cutting him loose. It is quite possible he retires soon and I would imagine a role earning his coaching badges with the youth teams or something of that nature will be offered.
He will retire.
So in these 3,5 years (after he signed new contract) he played how much? 10 games in PL? And will cost us aprox 15 mil. Damn....
My only question with this is, why don't the club come out and say that? If there was any chance of a recovery (and a potential transfer fee) I can understand it, but if he's finished then just let us know. It would cut down a lot of the chatter (and abuse).
I would say that despite playing next to nothing, he did us less harm then some players who played. How strange that may sound.
The English Winston Bogarde these past 4 years!
Lets be realistic here; for months he knew that he will not play under ETH. Or that he will be 5th choice at best. He also knew that club will not stand on his way if he wants out.
So he could have asked his agent to find him a club. Any club. But he didn't do that. He chose money. Which is fair enough, i have no problem with it. But my point is; his ambition is to get this year's wage and retire. Screw playing football
So he could have asked his agent to find him a club. Any club. But he didn't do that. He chose money. Which is fair enough, i have no problem with it. But my point is; his ambition is to get this year's wage and retire. Screw playing football
We'll see. If he doesn't retire soon then your opinion isn't correct.
If he does retire soon do I win a prize?
Surely it's not that easy to find a club willing to sign him when he's been injured for years
If he cared about playing, he’d mutually terminate the contract and get a pay as you play contract elsewhere
The bloke seems happy to sit out and collect his wages and it’s a shame because I really liked him at first
The bloke seems happy to sit out and collect his wages and it’s a shame because I really liked him at first
Chump change. Better in his pocket than a bigger divedend to the Glazers.
Yep, signed leg cast by Phil Jones(I was actually in cast few weeks back so I am not a cnut for mocking him).
For much (much, much) lower wage or wage based on number of games, he would surely find himself a club. If his desire was to play football. It wasn't. He chose to collect "free" 3 million.
So, i don't get all this sympathy towards him tbh; "poor guy" and shit like that.
Do we know what salary Jones is on? Maybe the contract was some sort of retirement package as it was clear that he won't play anymore?
Feel sorry for him but this is just highlight how badly club is run.
If Glazers were paying money from their pocket, they would never allow this situation to happen. But here we are, it's club's money so they don't care.
If Glazers were paying money from their pocket, they would never allow this situation to happen. But here we are, it's club's money so they don't care.