Pickford's tackle on VVD: What should be the punishment?

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I could be wrong but I'm assuming VAR didn't call this out as this happened after VAR had deemed a Pool player offside and hence everything that happens after the first foul (i.e, offside) is no longer under VAR's jurisdiction. Is this right? Because otherwise I don't see how that isn't a red card after VAR has looked at it.
Thats what I thought too. This tackle is obviously emphasized by the fact that VVD was injured quite badly. However, this is still a bad, reckless tackle which, had VVD not been offside, is a red card and penalty.

The problem I have is that players get sent off for slaps to faces and the like after a play has ended because the ref has blown his whistle. So the same law should be applied for reckless tackles. I mean we saw Bilic get sent off a couple of weeks ago after the game has ended. These inconsistencies are really whats annoying about VAR.
 

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In this day and age, a 'tackle' that would've been disgusting in the darkest eras of defending, should warrant a lengthy ban.

The picture still of the incident is tamer than the video - it was a true potential career ender of an assault.

In your opinion, what should Pickford be getting for this? In addition, what do you think he'll actually get?
He should be killed.
 

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Think there's a bit of an overreaction here to be honest. Was a terrible tackle and really should have been punished at the time with a red etc etc but it was clumsy rather than malicious imo. Just panicked, as he's prone to do.

I know that's no comfort to Pool or VVD but talk of retrospective 8 game bans etc is daft imo.
It's "clumsy" in the unnerving sense of Pickford not operating with a full deck for him to even lunge into it. Some part of him should be checking his action, but nothing lights up inside.
 

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It should be a retrospective red card which is 3 game ban. You cannot prove intent so under the rules surely it cannot be a longer ban. It was a horrendous tackle but rules should be consistent until such times as they introduce different weighted bans
 

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People can be sent off after a final whistle so the fact it was offside or whatever bears no relevance in my opinion.
 

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That's highly individual. Some people just walk off without much pain others, like me, are in excruciating pain for days.
It’s not an absolute, for sure, but, on average, an ACL tear is less painful than many would expect. I’ve had bad ankle sprains that hurt more than my ACL tear. That sucks that yours was painful for that length of time.
 

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Pickford is brain dead. There's never any intent with him. He just doesnt know what he's doing. He's one of those keepers where everything good he does looks like an accident. He cant stay still and assess the game. He's always following the ball like a moth to a light. What keepers do you ever see going in like he did yesterday? It was a shocking thing to do. Completely unnecessary.
 

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It should be a retrospective red card which is 3 game ban. You cannot prove intent so under the rules surely it cannot be a longer ban. It was a horrendous tackle but rules should be consistent until such times as they introduce different weighted bans
This is my view on it.
 

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Well it is a Liverpool player so the only realistic course of action is a death sentence and hand the next ten league titles to them?

And a knighthood for StevieSlip

And a 4 game ban for Evra
 

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People can be sent off after a final whistle so the fact it was offside or whatever bears no relevance in my opinion.
Also, they sent off richarlison after he blew the whistle for the first foul. It's just a monumental feck up by the VAR officials.
 

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No worries, brother. Broken bones are far easier to cope with physically & mentally & can be played on if they aren’t load bearing bones or one’s pain threshold is very high.
You can tell its Sunday when people are bored indoors talking about preferring broken bones to ACLs :lol:
 

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Also, they sent off richarlison after he blew the whistle for the first foul. It's just a monumental feck up by the VAR officials.
Exactly. It does call into question the human aspect of people checking video. Is it really any better than the referee making a decision on the spot? I’m not sure
 

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Begs the question on why United were not complaining to FA about the Martial red card?

Simple - we are used to being hard done by. LiVARpool have mostly been on the good end of dodgy VAR decisions. Justified that they are up in arms when one doesn't go for them.

Don't even know if they have a right to complain against the Pickford tackle. Just because their CB got injured is not a reason to go complaining to the FA. It's a contact sport, injuries happen.
 

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“He’s clumsy, he didn’t mean it. There’s no intent.”

If you throw your full weight in a flying scissors tackle at literal knee height, it doesn’t matter what your excuse is; that is not football. That should be completely outlawed from the game and severe punishment meted out for anyone executing it.

I bet the reactions wouldn’t be the same if VVD was slumped with a double fracture for the exact same incident.
 

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Stil lnot sure why this is being singled out. It was a terrible challenge that should result in a 3 game ban. Don't know how/why it wasn't a red in game, but then again I don't understand a lot about VAR.
 

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“He’s clumsy, he didn’t mean it. There’s no intent.”

If you throw your full weight in a flying scissors tackle at literal knee height, it doesn’t matter what your excuse is; that is not football. That should be completely outlawed from the game and severe punishment meted out for anyone executing it.

I bet the reactions wouldn’t be the same if VVD was slumped with a double fracture for the exact same incident.
If you want to change the rule book, that's fair enough, but tackles like that tend to result in 3 game bans.