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The FA need to do whatever is necessary to punish the offending player with a ban. If that means adjusting the rules midway through the season to accommodate the ban then so be it.He should be punished. However, I'm not sure if it can happen if the VAR refs have already seen it. Not sure on that one.
Body position mate ). Just look at him, he kinda has both feet forward, or he just looks odd, haha .
By just being there?
Fair enough. It normally takes a rare event for them to do that, though. So, I doubt it would happen.The FA need to do whatever is necessary to punish the offending player with a ban. If that means adjusting the rules midway through the season to accommodate the ban then so be it.
They cannot be seen to ignore it.
Punishment? I was thinking more of a knighthood ;-)
I personally believe it should be a yellow card for VVD for simulation.
You'll likely feel very differently about the situation if/when a United player receives a similarly reckless challenge and is subsequently sidelined for over half a season as a result. Think about it.Statue outside Old Trafford
The jokes went right over your head.You'll likely feel very differently about the situation if/when a United player receives a similarly reckless challenge and is subsequently sidelined for over half a season as a result. Think about it.
The only way to avoid that is the through FA handing out a retrospective ban, which will act as a detterent to future offenses of a similar nature. Whereas ignoring it, allowing Pickford to escape scot-free, only encourages players to do it more, safe in the knowledge that no punishment will come.
What rule would you need to adjust? Under the current rules it’s still a red card. Nothing needs adjusting. The officials just missed it and applied the rules wrongly.The FA need to do whatever is necessary to punish the offending player with a ban. If that means adjusting the rules midway through the season to accommodate the ban then so be it.
They cannot be seen to ignore it.
They didn't go over my head, I just didn't find them very funny.The jokes went right over your head.
Secondly, we need to calm down here. There was absolutely no intent from Pickford. Yes it’s still a red card for a clumsy reckless tackle endangering the opponent. But let’s chill out and realise it was stupidity more than malice.
I'm not fully aware of the rules on retrospective punishments to tell you the truth. I was merely replying to a poster who suggested a retrospective punishment may not be possible.What rule would you need to adjust? Under the current rules it’s still a red card. Nothing needs adjusting. The officials just missed it and applied the rules wrongly.
Okay, so free for all to jump into players if the ref blows the whistle for something else, got it!Nothing. The match is over and it was just a tackle. Just because it's Liverpool doesn't make it any different than many other tackles that hasn't been punished. It's not an assault
Ive not read every post.People who argues that there should be no punishment for this, in theory, doesnt that mean players can intentionally try to injure each other as long as a call is made for something else just prior?
Im not at all saying Pickford did this on purpose btw, just that if you want no punishment for this, players can actually start abusing the system.
Are you a Liverpool fan by any chance?They didn't go over my head, I just didn't find them very funny.
How can you say with any degree of certainty there was no intent from Pickford?
Of course I would think differently. That's because I'm obviously a hypocrite. Or maybe...just maybe...I wasn't really serious and you need to turn on your sarcasm detector and stop taking everything so literally...You'll likely feel very differently about the situation if/when a United player receives a similarly reckless challenge and is subsequently sidelined for over half a season as a result. Think about it.
The only way to avoid that is the through FA handing out a retrospective ban, which will act as a detterent to future offenses of a similar nature. Whereas ignoring it, allowing Pickford to escape scot-free, only encourages players to do it more, safe in the knowledge that no punishment will come.
I don't see how my view on the incident could be related to which club I support, but no, I'm a United fan for what it's worth.Are you a Liverpool fan by any chance?
If you’re trying to use the narrative that Pickford intended that, then it’s just bizarre.
That'll give Ancelotti and Southgate an excuse to finally drop Pickford.If vvd is out for 6 months the only proper punishment for Pickford should also be a 6 month ban. It was clearly a reckless tackle and should be punished harshly. Last season Romelu also tried to badly injure Greenwood. Tough punishments are required.
They do until they play for us.This forum has a bloody chip On it’s shoulder when it comes to being English.
Rio Ferdinand and various Rooney bans come to mind. English players don’t get preferential treatment.
Chill amolNo you're supposed to pray for VVD and offer up Pickford for a public stoning. Anything less is unacceptable on raw.. I mean redcafe.
No he doesn’t need an extended ban. But it does need to be a retrospective red card and automatic 3 game ban.Pickford needs an extended ban for that challenge, no question.
The FA would be setting a dangerous precident by ignoring it.
The VAR checked it and didn't deem it worthy of any action. You can agree or disagree, but that's the rule. Match is over so its closed case now. If Pickford is punished then there are lots of tackles that should get punished retrospectively.Okay, so free for all to jump into players if the ref blows the whistle for something else, got it!
Fair enough.The VAR checked it and didn't deem it worthy of any action. You can agree or disagree, but that's the rule. Match is over so its closed case now. If Pickford is punished then there are lots of tackles that should get punished retrospectively.
Laws are clear on this one. It can only be punished if it was missed. Since they saw replay before offside call, it wasn't missed. Case closed.
The punishment should be no ban and Everton have to continue playing this guy
It would be outrageous.I've thought this for awhile but this incident highlights my belief that for challenges like this, punishment needs to be greater than standard. When you endanger the safety of your opponent and cause them injury by being reckless, 3 matches isn't enough. For example, if I punched someone on the street, I would get a sterner punishment if they died.
The fact that Pickford will go unpunished is a joke.
The margin between that ending badly and ending well is quite small, if he plants his knee in his head it's going to be badOn a side note, I always felt goalkeepers get a lot of leeway being thuggish.
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Well seeing as Martial got 3 games for tapping that pussy Lamela on the face and this has potentially ruptured VVD's ACL I'd be leaning more towards 6+ frankly. I hate seeing thuggish shit on a pitch no matter who is playingIt should be a three game ban for reckless play. Those calling for longer bans of whatever arbitrary length, how would you grade these?
A potential legbreaker 5 games? Draw blood 6 games?