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So a luxury player basically?Fred or Scott or Matic.
He used to have Pirlo, Vidal and also plays with Kante, Nzonzi, Maduidi. With these players he got to finals and won huge trophies.
If I was him I would consider leaving.
So a luxury player basically?Fred or Scott or Matic.
He used to have Pirlo, Vidal and also plays with Kante, Nzonzi, Maduidi. With these players he got to finals and won huge trophies.
If I was him I would consider leaving.
No I'd say a brilliant albeit flawed player who is surrounded by 6th place caliber players.So a luxury player basically?
So he needs great players to watch his back so he can work his magic. Definition of a luxury player then.No I'd say a brilliant albeit flawed player who is surrounded by 6th place caliber players.
We have maybe 3 players that can get into top sides.
I'd agree with that. He's a very specific type of player, and in that way, tactically limited for a team. In a different way, so is Lukaku.No I'd say a brilliant albeit flawed player who is surrounded by 6th place caliber players.
We have maybe 3 players that can get into top sides.
10 goals 10 assists probably more. Paul Pogba is NOT the problem.You don't have to hate him to be unimpressed. He doesn't look like a long term world class player too many games like these. If He gets better then fine but he's not performing often enough and he's not the only one by any means.
He's not no I agree, but I was going through the squad earlier and he's only about 1 of 6 I would keep if I were a billionaire and could change things in the Summer.10 goals 10 assists probably more. Paul Pogba is NOT the problem.
Solskjaer has done that. 2 bad games don't change that. It's his effort that's been lacking for the last 2 games.If Emery can make Ozil works in his tactic then a Man Utd manager should be able to do that with Pogba as well. Pogba is a top player.
1) Play well enough to attract the attention of Barca/Madrid - CheckSolskjaer has done that. 2 bad games don't change that. It's his effort that's been lacking for the last 2 games.
Not sure what that has to do with my post. Barcelona and Madrid don't need to be attracted, they've probably seen enough of him the last few years to know that he's a very good player. If he's engineering a move, then I hope we have plan to replace him. I hope we manage to keep him.1) Play well enough to attract the attention of Barca/Madrid - Check
2) Sulk your way out of the club to ensure the deal gets done - In Progress
Remember the discussion we had after Tottenham game where we were lucky to win it 1-0?So he needs great players to watch his back so he can work his magic. Definition of a luxury player then.
I mean sure he should get better players anyway but somehow I see him picking games even then.
2 games? Since liverpool game I would say.Solskjaer has done that. 2 bad games don't change that. It's his effort that's been lacking for the last 2 games.
To know that he ain't worth 90 m at that point. Madrid ain't the wisest purchaser either. Perez is notorious for galactico signings which didn't make much sense on many occasions.to know that he's a very good player.
Yeah, come to think of it, he was poor against Arsenal and Southampton as well, my bad!2 games? Since liverpool game I would say.
Getting tired of seeing this argument.He needs the right sort of players to support and get the best out of him.
To be totally honest with you,I dont think Pogba really gives a shit.If Madrid come knocking then he and his agent will get to work on a deal.He's not going a. The manager said he's happy here and the team will be built around him. Do we want to speculate over the managers words? Nothing much to see here.
He's still a very good player and was integral to France's WC win. Considering for how much Coutinho went and considering that we don't want him to leave, we should at least still demand quite a lot, whether he's worth it, I honestly couldn't care less. Tranfer fees have been absurd for me ever since Zidane went to Madrid.To know that he ain't worth 90 m at that point. Madrid ain't the wisest purchaser either. Perez is notorious for galactico signings which didn't make much sense on many occasions.
Yep, that's one of the biggest reasons why we should keep him and probably are looking to keep him. At least for another season.My problem with the idea of selling Paul Pogba is two fold.
1. It makes us look un-ambitious, nor being able to hold onto our only world class outfield player.
2. When we fail to replace him with a proper star player, point 1 will be confirmed.
Pogba might not be Messi or Ronaldo, but he's key to our team. He'll always be inconsistent I reckon. Very few players are consistently match winners. It's not really fair to expect him to be. We should built quality around him so we're not reliant on him. If we had more ambitious owners - I'd say sell if the right price comes by.
World cup pogba is very different to juventus pogba and united pogba.He's still a very good player and was integral to France's WC win. Considering for how much Coutinho went and considering that we don't want him to leave, we should at least still demand quite a lot, whether he's worth it, I honestly couldn't care less. Tranfer fees have been absurd for me ever since Zidane went to Madrid.
None of that changes that he's easily our most talented player and since he's lost form in the last few games, we as a team have suffered. We are far too reliant on him.World cup pogba is very different to juventus pogba and united pogba.
He played as a b2b midfield controller and excelled and even won, but that attitude of team spirit does not hang around in club football. Juventus had the midfielders cover for his mistakes and sloppiness, but he has never matured as a player since than where he is still looking for a platform so that he can take all the plaudits from that platform which isn't available here.
Giroud is more important than Pogba in the French team that is for sure.Why do people talk about him winning a world Cup with France? France is the strongest national team in the world post spain's era & its going to be that way whether Pogba plays in midfield or not. They have way too many good players that could have done his role.
No. Remind me.Remember the discussion we had after Tottenham game where we were lucky to win it 1-0?
Exactly, I actually don't think he even had a great world cup, he was decent but certainly not their main player of the tournament the way some on here portrayed it. He's a good player in a very good team eg Juve and France. In those teams if he's having an off day there were other top quality players to pick up the slack. With us if he can't be bothered or isn't playing well we don't have another quality player to take over the midfield. It's a worrying situation. At times yesterday I liked Fred when he was picking up the ball from deep and playing in that probing busy type midfield role. I don't think he would be the long term answer but I'd prefer that type of player in our mid. Better version of that can help us run the midfield, dictate the pace. There can still be a role for Pogba here, but we'd need to splash out big to get the balance right with him in mid, which we've basically done every season Pogba has been here and we still can't find our balance yet in mid.Why do people talk about him winning a world Cup with France? France is the strongest national team in the world post spain's era & its going to be that way whether Pogba plays in midfield or not. They have way too many good players that could have done his role.
Who are these players then?Why do people talk about him winning a world Cup with France? France is the strongest national team in the world post spain's era & its going to be that way whether Pogba plays in midfield or not. They have way too many good players that could have done his role.
Well what I meant was that Pogba wasn't the only special player acroos their first team. Giroud, griezzman, varane etc etc - I'm too busy to do the obvious.Who are these players then?
People talk about him winning the World Cup because its the greatest achievement in world football. He was a key player in their win. Of course, it's relevant when we talk about his ability.