Pogba Future
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Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) discuss United's fantastic win away against Athletic Club in the semi-final of the Europa League.
They also pick out the positives of United's 4-3 loss away at Brentford, and Nik reviews a day out at Old Trafford watching Manchester United Women qualify for the Champions League.
He has 2 + 1 years contract so we stll have to accept an offer and we will not so it's a bit of a mute point what others might be able to offer.I get that but does anyone understand the term bargaining chip on here
That’s a fair point. But ultimately, he’s going to have to either deliver and become all that he promises or not. He will be scrutinised for his salary for sure, but if he delivers it will be irrelevant. I appreciate that he can’t do it alone though.
Would be astonished if he signed a new deal given what happened over the past two summers (particularly the last one) but in fairness the only clubs I see being in for him would be PSG, Juventus and Madrid and I doubt he'd go to Madrid if Jose goes there.
Juventus will try to get him in summer
I always said it from the start of the season, without Pogba we will struggle to do anything. Fans might think he is inconsistent, not worth it or whatever but the fact remains that he is our best player and without him we are a below average team. He makes our attacking play tick and is the only one who can do it in this team.
Is it definitely the +1? If so that does buy some real strength in our position. I thought we were into the last 2 years.
Never ever knock the appeal of huge money in an extension.
These players ignore that it might make it harder to leave
Ok thanks for confirming Ed
According to transfermarkt.com he has 2 years left plus the option of +1.
We can trigger that without concent like we did with Evra, so yes technically still 2 and a half years left.
Exactly. Make/Show some progress this season, qualify for the CL, add quality midfielders around him and give him a new raised contract and he'll sign.
The club wouldn't let him leave and valued him at £150m, so he needs to be paid as one. A nice payrise for staying and not kicking up a stink. I would be gobsmacked if he stayed and was happy to play Europa again next year for money
Let’s hope that the following happens:
Zidane is sacked before Christmas and Jose goes to Madrid - Madrid out!
Juventus win the Champions league and so don’t want/need to pay a world record fee for Pogba - Juve out!
We make some good signings in Jan and get top 4, or win Europa League - Pogba signs and stays
I guess there is still PSG but that’s already enough variables
Zidane is sacked before Christmas and Jose goes to Madrid - Madrid out!
Juventus win the Champions league and so don’t want/need to pay a world record fee for Pogba - Juve out!
We make some good signings in Jan and get top 4, or win Europa League - Pogba signs and stays
I guess there is still PSG but that’s already enough variables
The Times reckon he's only on 140k per week with 6.5m image rights.
Interesting. If so is it any wonder there's been such discontent since the arrival of Sanchez on his pay packet?
Interesting. If so is it any wonder there's been such discontent since the arrival of Sanchez on his pay packet?
No problem. But i can't take credit for this, Madrid's president said recently that he couldn't do anything about Pogba because United refused to even enter negotiations and the contract part is widely reported everywhere, including the article in the Times Sport.
Well as our revenue is expected to drop by an optimistic £47-£67 million in next years figures due to no champions league don’t bank on the Ed and the Glazers refusing to enter negotiations this summer.
Well now is the time to prove his loyalty. All that talk of being Mancunian, Manchester is home, he needs to sign.
#pogback is the past, now we need #pogstay.
Please make this happen. I want him for foreseeable future.
#pogback is the past, now we need #pogstay.
Please make this happen. I want him for foreseeable future.
The other way to look at it is that he is by far the most marketable player and selling him would have a negative effect on the commercial side. Add to this the cost of replacing him and i don't know if selling him would give much of a net profit, i'd expect the opposite actually. Extending the contract i think makes both financial and football sense.
I think we ll put him on par with DeGea - around 300-375 K per week
These yanks only care about the bottom line it seems and unless we are planning more diluting sponsorship deals all these sucker sponsors are already in for the long haul. Selling him will add £100 million+ to next years revenue which would “show” continued growth and possibly increase the share price (the only questions asked by shareholders were about marketing opportunities in China and something about loan deals) expect his replacement to be someone like Longstaff.
I think he's almost certain to leave and there will be no shortage of suiters for him. That will no doubt add to our summer recruitment headache but it's still better than keeping a player who is not fully convinced.
Hopefully he can help us win the europa or scrape through top 4, which can improve the quality of players that we can replace him with.
Hopefully he can help us win the europa or scrape through top 4, which can improve the quality of players that we can replace him with.
Why would he want to jump from sinking ship to another ? Not to mention there are strong possibility that another sinking ship would be captained by someone who he hates or hates him the most and would definitely made his life miserable there.
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Well if nothing else he's certainly earned that contract offer.
He's been consistently brilliant during his time here.
He's been consistently brilliant during his time here.
I would use many words to describe Pogba but consistency is not one of them
You could use;
Integral part of world cup winning team
Potential to be best player in the world
But you cant throw that label at any of our other players (except maybe DDG).
If he does want to go to another club for football reasons then I couldn't really blame him but what I could blame him for is his stinking attitude in a majority of his time here. A lot of people say he can't do it on his own which could be true but a supposedly world class player has to show a lot more than he's shown for us.
If he stays its because of a bank full of money that he wouldn't get anywhere else. Ed will want to keep him for his marketing value more than his footballing ability which is a very worrying trend.
Best case scenario is he stays and plays like he wants to be here but what's the chances?
If he stays its because of a bank full of money that he wouldn't get anywhere else. Ed will want to keep him for his marketing value more than his footballing ability which is a very worrying trend.
Best case scenario is he stays and plays like he wants to be here but what's the chances?
I think he stays, not out of any loyalty or great desire to be here, but simply due to lack of interest from other clubs. Real were rumoured to be interested but forked out a ton of money on other options ahead of him. Zidane no doubt is a fan, but how long will he last at Real. The incredible transfer fee we will be seeking for him I think it's hard for other clubs to justify it.
He’s 27 next, if he hasn’t even come close to that yet what makes you think he is going to do it now?
Exactly - he's had a few niggling injuries, has been a yo-yo in terms of form, been called out on attitude by a former manager and often seemed half committed to the cause. I don't think it's even about the money, I just don't think he's rated that highly outside of OT given he's going to command a stupidly high fee. If he runs down his contract I think he'll be about 30 when he leaves us - I think he'll push like crazy this summer unless results drastically improve but I can't see any team wanting to fork out £100m plus for him.
He was in the team and played well but it's arguable that the team could have still won without him.
Rubbish! He hasn't the correct attitude to become the best in the world full stop.
Maybe not but it does't mean Paul Pogba is anything other than an expensive, inconsistent luxury that only turns up when he feels like it. I doubt there are many takers for this guy at the money banded around. He must look unprofessional from the outside.
And that's because he's nowhere near as good as most of this forum makes out.
Well he's stagnated with us, as do most players these days. I wouldn't blame him for that at all.
Add to that his reputation has definitely taken a big hit playing for us.
Poor little Paulie Waulie, my heart bleeds.
It's not to feel sorry for Paul, but for us to be ashamed of ourselves.
Most big players who came here have taken a big reputation hit. Pretty embarrassing for us.
Might be reading into things also but for Ole to make Tuanzebe captain over Pogba tells me all’s not right there, I had my doubts about this injury and how long it lasted.
I’m more embarrassed about the transfer policy that bought some of these ‘big name’ players here in the first place. Some real screw up over the last few years. Pogba is one of them. One of the worst. Some much hope. So much money. So little in return.
Can't see him signing up for the planned '22 title challenge.
I agree with the first part. We spent too much money and hype on individual players, and it then affected the perception of their performance, like you allude in the 2nd part.
But I will say that these are all high-level players, proven elsewhere, and thus I find it quite hard to blame them for their time here. Especially as it has become a trend no matter the player.
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