Portugal - Euro 2020 Discussion

[KC91]

I think Portugal will get something out of the France game. Germany's formation gave them a lot of issues, the wingbacks in particular caused a ton of problems right up until Gosens was subbed off.

They'll likely see more of the ball against France, and will be able to play at a much better tempo. They'll have to be wary of the French talent up front of course, but France to me are looking like a team that's just kind of going through the motions at the moment and aren't too concerned about where they finish in the group.

 

[Cal?]

England v Germany
Netherlands v Portugal
in the last 16

2 teams awarded for winning their group by getting their nemesis

 

[RedRonaldo]

I think Portugal will get something out of the France game. Germany's formation gave them a lot of issues, the wingbacks in particular caused a ton of problems right up until Gosens was subbed off.

They'll likely see more of the ball against France, and will be able to play at a much better tempo. They'll have to be wary of the French talent up front of course, but France to me are looking like a team that's just kind of going through the motions at the moment and aren't too concerned about where they finish in the group.

I don’t think their 2 supper slow DM can handle France midfield at all. Not to mention Semedo ultimate test vs Mbappe.

 

[Rektsanwalt]

England v Germany
Netherlands v Portugal
in the last 16

2 teams awarded for winning their group by getting their nemesis

Finally some good games though. Happy enough with that.

 

[TheGame]

Argentina had Venezuela and USA en route to the Copa Final in the same year. They didn’t even have to play a RO16.

Its a different format and there are less harder teams to draw. Plus they were in the same group as Chile and actually finished in the top 2 not scraped past with no wins in third place.

 

[Schmeichel's Cartwheel]

I think Portugal will get something out of the France game. Germany's formation gave them a lot of issues, the wingbacks in particular caused a ton of problems right up until Gosens was subbed off.

They'll likely see more of the ball against France, and will be able to play at a much better tempo. They'll have to be wary of the French talent up front of course, but France to me are looking like a team that's just kind of going through the motions at the moment and aren't too concerned about where they finish in the group.

If they win the group it's Switzerland or Ukraine at a neutral venue, if they come 2nd it's England at Wembley. I know England haven't looked good, but neither have France. They would be foolish to not go for the win here.

 

[giorno]

Croatia were coming off dismantling Spain in the group stage and looked like potential favourites to win it all in 2016, they were a very strong side that made the final 2 years later. And France were at home. Portugal's route in euro 2016 wasn't that easy

I don't think Semedo vs Mbappé is going to be that much of an issue. Mbappé vs Pepe & Dias much more so

 

[SCP]

Thank God we are going to Sevilla, obviously Belgium is favourite, has 2 more days of rest , but would hate to play at Wembley. To my mind never a Portuguese team won a match at Wembley, even Benfica there against United in 68 don’t remember if they lost on the extra time.

Anyway I doubt Santos learned anything from the game at Germany and Belgium uses a similar system, any bet who will be the Belgian Goosens?

 

[Gringo]

Well that was horrible for the nerves. Could only watch 60minutes on and it looked like we were struggling a little. But pleased Santos made the right changes for this match. Not too fussed if we lose to the Belgiums, they're a good side.

 

[SCP]

Well that was horrible for the nerves. Could only watch 60minutes on and it looked like we were struggling a little. But pleased Santos made the right changes for this match. Not too fussed if we lose to the Belgiums, they're a good side.

2 less days to recover and Belgium plays a similar system to Germany, I doubt Santos learned anything from that match.

 

[Peyroteo]

We're never going to win this tournament with the draw we were given. It was doomed from the start.

Proud of the performance today regardless. If that made up penalty on Mbappe isn't called it could have gone very differently.

 

[SportingCP96]

- Semedo is awful, I would just retire.
- Palhinha is our best DM
- Renato needs to start
- Bruno has been shit
- Bernardo shit
- Rui Best Portuguese keeper ever
- Ronaldo is GOD in human form

That’s what I got so far.

 

[Gonçalo Motta]

- Semedo is awful, I would just retire.
- Palhinha is our best DM
- Renato needs to start
- Bruno has been shit
- Bernardo shit
- Rui Best Portuguese keeper ever
- Ronaldo is GOD in human form

That’s what I got so far.

I agree with most but Semedo was actually pretty decent this match.

 

[SCP]

- Semedo is awful, I would just retire.
- Palhinha is our best DM
- Renato needs to start
- Bruno has been shit
- Bernardo shit
- Rui Best Portuguese keeper ever
- Ronaldo is GOD in human form

That’s what I got so far.

Bernardo played better today, Bruno looks a strange body on the team, don’t know if it’s tiredness, Santos tatics or just anxiety, things aren’t going right for him.

 

[SportingCP96]

I agree with most but Semedo was actually pretty decent this match.

And he still caused a pen, he’s Just só mistake prone. Losing cancelo was a big Blow for us sadly

 

[SportingCP96]

Bernardo played better today, Bruno looks a strange body on the team, don’t know if it’s tiredness, Santos tatics or just anxiety, things aren’t going right for him.

Ya if he performs the way we know how we would be much better, he just seems very nervous every time he touched the ball.

Looks a shell of himself Right now

 

[Gonçalo Motta]

And he still caused a pen, he’s Just só mistake prone. Losing cancelo was a big Blow for us sadly

I wouldn't blame him for the ghost penalty tbf. Jota, Fernandes and Bernardo Silva were really underwhelming all group stage though.

Fernandes playing on the right isn't helping much I assume.

 

[SCP]

Ya if he performs the way we know how we would be much better, he just seems very nervous every time he touched the ball.

Looks a shell of himself Right now

He worked much more defensively today, him and Jota, expected much more from Fernandes, don’t know if he is tired or if he stresses playing for Portugal, the truth is that a washed up Moutinho calms the things on the midfield, and that is a worrying thing to watch.

 

[Gringo]

Bruno doesn't fit into this team, even in a midfield 3. I'd rather have Moutinho there who will consistently control and keep possession. Coming on as a right winger seemed strange and didn't work. Rafa I thought was the logical substitution.

 

[SportingCP96]

I wouldn't blame him for the ghost penalty tbf. Jota, Fernandes and Bernardo Silva were really underwhelming all group stage though.

Fernandes playing on the right isn't helping much I assume.

Ya the front line has been very underwhelming. Being carried by a 36 year old man.

 

[FootballHQ]

Ronaldo seems to shot loads of his penalties low to the left these days, certainly his favourite side when you think he missed in the CL final all those years back that side and also recently v Inter Handa read it but rebound found its way back to him.

Lloris could've saved one of them if he'd done a bit of research.

 

[El Jefe]

Thought today was their best performance. The first time I've seen them move the ball in midfield with authority and purpose except for the last 5mins against Hungary. Bernardo Silva was much better in this game and he needed to be because Portugal lack creativity when he's not on his game. Renato was excellent and I felt Paulinha did very well after coming on too. Jota seems to be the problem in attack now but he's busy and works hard but his decision making really needs to improve. Get him playing well and it will unlock another level in the attack specifically for Ronaldo as he seems like the only one who can score atm.

 

[VorZakone]

Jota's decision making is a bit shit but he offers Portugal a pacey outlet to launch on the counter.

I've been unimpressed with Ruben Dias and Bernardo Silva.

 

[Gonçalo Motta]

Belgium run to the title is a nightmare.

It can potentially be - Portugal - Italy - France / Spain - England / France / Germany / Netherlands (final). No easy games

 

[SportingCP96]

Also drop Bernardo and play Pote he’s the most inform attacking player we have bar the G.O.A.T.

 

[SCP]

Also drop Bernardo and play Pote he’s the most inform attacking player we have bar the G.O.A.T.

No way, he has to learn how to take the best from Fernandes and Bernardo at the same time. For me it's ridiculous that he sees Bernardo as a winger who has to put crosses into Ronaldo, and Fernandes today went to the pitch to play as a winger. With that said, I see Bruno and even Bernardo receive a lot of stick but Jota has been very selfish, he better step up and stop making those stupid runs like if he is playing a 1vs 1 game and starts looking around the pitch to see if there is a player to receive the ball in better positions.

 

[RedRonaldo]

Belgium run to the title is a nightmare.

It can potentially be - Portugal - Italy - France / Spain - England / France / Germany / Netherlands (final). No easy games

Same as Portugal. And I don’t think Portugal could win this tournament due to their tough run. But realistically if Ronaldo manage to score at least 1 more to break international record and also finish this tournament as top goalscorer, I will be happy. Although my best dream is to watch Portugal vs England in final.

 

[Bole Top]

France basically gifted them both goals and in general I didn't think Cristiano was particularly good besides taking those penalties, but obviously both him and Benzema will get the most praise because it's how it works.

personally, I'm more impressed by their manager. he often gets criticized, but you rarely see NT that drilled and that's why I have them as the second best NT in world. Pepe and Sanchez always up their level playing for Portugal and even when Palhinha went in, there was basically no drop in performance. they shouldn't fear anyone as long as Santos is there. they might not be the most attractive team to watch, but this style gets you trophies.

Belgium have some great players but I don't rate their defence and I certainlly don't trust their manager. they're the favorites here for some reason, yet I see Santos schooling Martinez the same way Fergie used to school Wenger.

 

[Greyfog]

Pep turning Bernado into a grafting midfielder has killed his offensive impact. He is getting picked because he is a hard worker who can hopefully offer something in attack. Not surprised he wants out of City.
Dias has been shocking though not surprised, has looked shaky for City after that epic PSG tie.

 

[Gonçalo Motta]

Same as Portugal. And I don’t think Portugal could win this tournament due to their tough run. But realistically if Ronaldo manage to score at least 1 more to break international record and also finish this tournament as top goalscorer, I will be happy. Although my best dream is to watch Portugal vs England in final.

Being in this group actually was a blessing in disguise for Portugal imo.
In an easier group and without a real test, the William / Danilo duo would probably be enough to win the group without any issues and we would be exposed in the first tough game in the KO stages (and most likely eliminated).
At least this way we got exposed against Germany and Fernando Santos was forced to fix the issues before entering the next phase.

The Portuguese team that played against France felt way more balanced overall.

France basically gifted them both goals and in general I didn't think Cristiano was particularly good besides taking those penalties, but obviously both him and Benzema will get the most praise because it's how it works.

personally, I'm more impressed by their manager. he often gets criticized, but you rarely see NT that drilled and that's why I have them as the second best NT in world. Pepe and Sanchez always up their level playing for Portugal and even when Palhinha went in, there was basically no drop in performance. they shouldn't fear anyone as long as Santos is there. they might not be the most attractive team to watch, but this style gets you trophies.

Belgium have some great players but I don't rate their defence and I certainlly don't trust their manager. they're the favorites here for some reason, yet I see Santos schooling Martinez the same way Fergie used to school Wenger.

He wasn't but this game was more about pressing and getting control of the midfield than trying to create chances since both teams were playing really safe. Bar a few lost balls, he helped to do just that.

 

[Leeuw]

France basically gifted them both goals and in general I didn't think Cristiano was particularly good besides taking those penalties, but obviously both him and Benzema will get the most praise because it's how it works.

personally, I'm more impressed by their manager. he often gets criticized, but you rarely see NT that drilled and that's why I have them as the second best NT in world. Pepe and Sanchez always up their level playing for Portugal and even when Palhinha went in, there was basically no drop in performance. they shouldn't fear anyone as long as Santos is there. they might not be the most attractive team to watch, but this style gets you trophies.

Belgium have some great players but I don't rate their defence and I certainlly don't trust their manager. they're the favorites here for some reason, yet I see Santos schooling Martinez the same way Fergie used to school Wenger.

A manager who starts a game with Danilo and William isn't a good manager. He's just lucky that he has great players. I think Martinez who isn't really good is a little bit better because he plays more offensive.

 

[SER19]

Think Portugal will upset Belgium. Nerves will have settled after getting out of very tough group reasonably intact and while Belgium are possible winners of tournament I just feel Portugal will stifle them and turn in a decent defensive performance at last

 

[rhajdu]

At my workplace we organized a betting competition, and since I have unconditional love for Portugal as a country I chose them. I also named Ronaldo as the top scorer. So far I am the last one, but if Portugal can make it, I will jump to the top. So come on, I would like to have a new Hungarian kit!

Portugal doesn't seem to click yet, but I think that they will progress againts Belgium somehow. Unfortunately, I don't see right know how they will beat Italy.

 

[Gringo]

I'm worried about Bernardo and Jota. A peak Siva from 2/3 years ago and I'd be confident of going far. But there isn't really that spark right now in my opinion. Felix is a miss too. Belgium just seem to be clicking more going forward than Portugal.

 

[Peyroteo]

Palhinha-Renato-Bruno is our best midfield imo but Bruno has been bad so I don't mind if he starts Moutinho even if he can only play 60 minutes at a high level.

Belgium plays 3 CBs like Germany. Even if their wingbacks aren't as good as Germany's (Kimmich and Gosens) I hope we learned something from the Germany game and the team is more prepared for that system. Lukaku will be a pain in the ass all game and De Bruyne needs to have as little space as possible. I keep hearing about their defense being suspect but they only conceded 1 goal in 3 games while we have 6 in the last 2... they are very dangerous on the counter too so we're going to need to be very careful all game.

In attack Bernardo, Jota and hopefully Bruno will need to step up because Ronaldo isn't going to score in every game. Bernardo should have left City a few years ago already, had one incredible season but he’s regressed.

 

[Leeuw]

Thank God we are going to Sevilla, obviously Belgium is favourite, has 2 more days of rest , but would hate to play at Wembley. To my mind never a Portuguese team won a match at Wembley, even Benfica there against United in 68 don’t remember if they lost on the extra time.

Anyway I doubt Santos learned anything from the game at Germany and Belgium uses a similar system, any bet who will be the Belgian Goosens?

Go home if you don't want to play at Wembley. The final and the semi-finals are at Wembley. Tens que matar o borrego. The last sentence is something in portuguese that means that you have to end it. Real translation is you have to kill the pig.

 

[Helder-Carvalho]

Borrego is lamb not pig.

 

[MrEleson]

I'm worried about Bernardo and Jota. A peak Siva from 2/3 years ago and I'd be confident of going far. But there isn't really that spark right now in my opinion. Felix is a miss too. Belgium just seem to be clicking more going forward than Portugal.

Is Felix not in the squad? I’m surprised he hasn’t made any appearance yet.

 

[Peyroteo]

Is Felix not in the squad? I’m surprised he hasn’t made any appearance yet.

He’s been injured

 

[MrEleson]

He’s been injured

Oh I see, but he’s still in the squad from what I checked. Is there any chance he’ll have recovered in time to contribute in the next games in some way? Couldn’t find what his injury was