Is Heynckes still retired? Get him or SAF out of their comfort zone for 3-4 months 
Possible Interim Managers - If LVG is sacked mid season
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Stands for one of the ugliest uninspired football I've seen in my lifetime. Someone with a bit more attacking spirit might be more suitable?
This would be very, very good. Great manager and his work with Chile was amazing, even won the Copa America. Under the radar signing, and would rather risk him than having Van Gaal for the rest of the season.
Lothar Matthäus anyone?
Anyone mentioned Brendan yet?
I posted this before but this is a good way to entice Fergie back.
Warren Joyce.
How about Carlos Queiroz ?
I like this thread. It basically renders the anti-LVG and anti-Woodward threads redundant. The cyclical arguments that have been going on in those threads for months, ultimately come back to this underlying point. There's no fecking point sacking him when all these replacements are dog shit.
Would love someone like Heynckes, but no one like that availableIs Heynckes still retired? Get him or SAF out of their comfort zone for 3-4 months
On the other hand, can see why the club would be hesitant to rush into making another appointment without proper consideration (however short term their stint would be) - the last two appointments being such disappointments.
For what it's worth on who's available - I know it's not a popular choice, but I'd take Benitez
I quite liked how he had Chelsea playing during his interim stint with them - I thought he had good chemistry with that team and got it spot on in terms of making the personnel there work. Plus we've got loads of Spaniards at the club so he'd be right at home
Warren
Rodgers. LOL
We have to cut the apron strings at some point, I'm afraid, unless we are actually trying to recreate post-68. And Fergie himself deserves his retirement to spend with his family. I'm not the founder and sole member of the Red Cafe Rafa fan club by the way. Just struggling to pull remotely plausible names out of a hat.
If your only concern is the coefficient: You can pick up almost as many points in the Europa League as in the CL. With deep runs just a difference of 3 points.
That's the major reason why the English country assoication factor is so low: EPL clubs saw it as useless interference with the EPL and threw it away (bar Chelsea). Italian and Spanish clubs picked up an abundance of points via Europa League.
Klinsmann. A lot of the US football media wants him out & it would help him save face.
Can't really think of any realistic options for an interim manager besides promoting from within with Joyce or Giggs. I wish we'd move away from this idea that the only options for our next permanent manager are Mourinho and Giggs though. The powers that be should get working on doing some homework and look at what else is out there. Sampaoli, Rudi Garcia, Lucien Favre are all free and were all very highly rated at some point in recent history. And we're still a massive club so basically any manager outside of the PL top 4 and Europe's top 5-6 should be considered "available" to us.
I'd second that, if only for the mass suicide over at RAWKWould love someone like Heynckes, but no one like that available
On the other hand, can see why the club would be hesitant to rush into making another appointment without proper consideration (however short term their stint would be) - the last two appointments being such disappointments.
For what it's worth on who's available - I know it's not a popular choice, but I'd take Benitez
I quite liked how he had Chelsea playing during his interim stint with them - I thought he had good chemistry with that team and got it spot on in terms of making the personnel there work. Plus we've got loads of Spaniards at the club so he'd be right at home
edit: come to think of it, there might be a mass suicide on the Caf as well!
Would be well funny seeing a RAWK/CAF double meltdownI'd second that, if only for the mass suicide over at RAWK
edit: come to think of it, there might be a mass suicide on the Caf as well!
Some might laugh but Nigel Pearson is not doing anything is he?
Obviously not good enough for the long term but I think he would do well as interim. At the very least he will call one of our big players who goes into hiding in a big game an ostrich.
Leicester played some scintillating stuff toward the end of last season. Has more experience than Giggsy. I don't see why not.
Obviously not good enough for the long term but I think he would do well as interim. At the very least he will call one of our big players who goes into hiding in a big game an ostrich.
Leicester played some scintillating stuff toward the end of last season. Has more experience than Giggsy. I don't see why not.
To be fair, everybody has more experience than Giggsy.
True. Yet we seem to not be able to think of any interim alternative. A lot of the names in this thread won't come in as interim (Sampaoli), don't have enough experience as first team managers (Joyce, Queiroz..), or obvious unrealistic (FSW, Rodgers..)
It's all a little depressing.
Doesn't mean he's any good. The difference between him and Queiroz was like night and day. He's not exactly jumped back into top role for a big club since either.
I don't think the club know who to appoint if LVG goes and that is why he is and will continue to be here. They will have exactly the same problem in the summer, they won't get any of their preferred choices and the options may well come down to jose or giggs again anyway.
It's a big mess, only way I see LVG not staying until we are mathematically out of the top four and dumped out of the cups is if the crowd really turn on him and he walks away, and that is probably pretty close to happening already unless there is a sudden and unexpected improvement.
It's a big mess, only way I see LVG not staying until we are mathematically out of the top four and dumped out of the cups is if the crowd really turn on him and he walks away, and that is probably pretty close to happening already unless there is a sudden and unexpected improvement.
Sure is.
Keano
We certainly won more with phelan as assistant than with giggs. He's been around longer than giggs and there was some sort of going up the ranks with phelan which never happened with giggs. Yet the former is derided while the latter is tipped for the top job
Better than Giggs? Probably, but that still doesn't mean he's good! There's a lot of names I'd consider before Phelan.
Why is there a need to cut the apron strings? He is an asset in a billion pound business. Personally I think he should be used..if he wants to be. Just short term mind.
Warren Joyce?
In an ideal world, we'd get Mourinho but I can't see that until summer where we have to go for either him, Guardiola or Simeone.
There's a major political battle going on off the pitch. Appointing Giggs/any other legend from the Fergie era would create further problems down the line. Warren Joyce (on a caretaker basis) has at least worked in coaching and will know some of the players. Doing it on a "caretaker" basis means if it doesn't work out, we can step up the hunt for a permanent manager and Joyce can go back to his current role.
In an ideal world, we'd get Mourinho but I can't see that until summer where we have to go for either him, Guardiola or Simeone.
There's a major political battle going on off the pitch. Appointing Giggs/any other legend from the Fergie era would create further problems down the line. Warren Joyce (on a caretaker basis) has at least worked in coaching and will know some of the players. Doing it on a "caretaker" basis means if it doesn't work out, we can step up the hunt for a permanent manager and Joyce can go back to his current role.
Idea for a future combined super threadWould be well funny seeing a RAWK/CAF double meltdown
Does he speak English?
I do agree that there is a dearth of quality interim managers out there for us. Either we stick with LvG, endure the horrid football for another half season and hope that he gets top 4. Or take anhuge chance in bringing an interim manager such as Giggs, Joyce, Keane (would be fun), Meulensteen, or Queiroz (his football would hardly be more entertaining than LvG) who might bring an initial spark, loosen the reins a bit, but after that wears off who knows how it will go. Big risk.
I feel options like Rafa, Lippi, Bielsa et al. are quite unrealistic.
Maybe Dick Advocaat? He looked a defeated man in Sunderland, but maybe he would better with a stronger group of players.
We need someone with experience to take control of the team quickly. The most appropriate person would be saf. Other names would be
- Rafa. Hes got experience in both the epl and as an interim manager. His rumoured appointment may even spur saf to reclaim his place which would be a big plus for us
- Lippi. Saf old friend and one of the most experienced managers around. Lippi is very similar to saf in many ways.
- Antonio Conte. There are rumours that he's unhappy with Italy and would consider such prestigious role. However if he does well he might expect to remain here.
- Trapattone. He's enjoying his semi retirement by leading the Vatican team. However his wealth of experience is unmatched. His experience with Ireland should have given him a good idea of how the epl works
- Bielsa. A top manager with great experience.
- Rafa. Hes got experience in both the epl and as an interim manager. His rumoured appointment may even spur saf to reclaim his place which would be a big plus for us
- Lippi. Saf old friend and one of the most experienced managers around. Lippi is very similar to saf in many ways.
- Antonio Conte. There are rumours that he's unhappy with Italy and would consider such prestigious role. However if he does well he might expect to remain here.
- Trapattone. He's enjoying his semi retirement by leading the Vatican team. However his wealth of experience is unmatched. His experience with Ireland should have given him a good idea of how the epl works
- Bielsa. A top manager with great experience.
Rafa would be a controversial appointment, given his history with SAF. Also unlikely that he would want to take the job, being a bit of an Anfield-hero and all.
Pretty sure Lippi has said that he would never manage a club again. A national team, maybe, but not a club.
Conte has the Euros coming up -- would be very strange for him to leave the Italy job now for an interim position at United. And as you say, he would most likely want a permanent position.
I suppose he could be a possibility. He's an old fart though, and hasn't really managed for, what, three years?
Has Bielsa ever taken on an interim position? He's very idealistic, and I suspect that he would want time to implement his system. Would be very entertaining though.
Lippi has changed his mind and Conte is desperate to return to club management.
Malky Mackay, or Joe Kinnear.
Doubt they'd do any worse.
Doubt they'd do any worse.
Bielsa would be a lot of fun
You have a source for Lippi changing his mind?
And even if Conte is desperate to get back into club management, he's hardly going to abandon ship right before the Euros for a chance of interim position at United.
Seriously, all jokes aside, I've said on another thread that I don't think it's so simple getting in an interim manager at this time. When you really think about it, who exactly is competent, but won't mind doing the job for a few months and then fecking off at the end of the season for a new manager? Surely we need someone who can instantly lift the team and have their respect at the same time. Who exactly is going to be able to do this? Hiddink is a good example of someone like that, but I can't honestly think who else is out there.
So all this means probably means the situation is a little more complicated than we would like and is probably partly hampering the board. Dunno.
So all this means probably means the situation is a little more complicated than we would like and is probably partly hampering the board. Dunno.