Champ
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I honestly give up with this fan base on here and their agendas.
Fecking embarrassing
Fecking embarrassing
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Pogba 89mIm no fan of the Glazers but Uniteds net spending on transfers over the last 5 years is £457.60 million; City spent £357.31 million in the same period.
And 5 years ago, how far were we off them? We’ve only spent 100m more than them in that time which in the transfer market of the last 5 years is equivalent to two top players on a good day. Meanwhile the glazers take 25 million per season on dividends and the director fees are in the millions. Not to mention the debt interest.Im no fan of the Glazers but Uniteds net spending on transfers over the last 5 years is £457.60 million; City spent £357.31 million in the same period.
That's not their fault though. The shite managers we've had are to blame for the appalling squandering of money. Although the owners should be blamed for persisting with an incompetent banker to run the operations on the football side of thingsPogba 89m
Maguire 80m
Donny 35m
AWB 50m
Fred 54m
Sancho 72m, jury still out though
Money not well spent. The owners are sucking the club dry and we fail to buy well in the market. Not a winning combo. Hello 6th place.
Exactly. This is the sum of the problem: the Glazers, to their shame, entrusted bankers with running the club, they hiring managers who never had it (Moyes, Ole) or were past it (Van Gaal, Mourinho), who insisted in bringing in players who weren't up to proper United standards (too numerous to name, but the idiocy began with the panic buy of Fellaini).That's not their fault though. The shite managers we've had are to blame for the appalling squandering of money. Although the owners should be blamed for persisting with an incompetent banker to run the operations on the football side of things
we have tactically outwitted him a few times, under different managers. The trouble is, he’s really really good. He’s going down in history as one of the better managers in history, who knows by the time he’s done, maybe even the best.When are we going to dominate a guardiola team? When. Not once have we dominated a guardiola team like he has dominated us since 2009. Terrible really.
We have generally beaten him counter attacking. Didnt Ole beat him three times in one season. I think it is the most any manager has beaten him in a single season. But it is counter attacking tactics.we have tactically outwitted him a few times, under different managers. The trouble is, he’s really really good. He’s going down in history as one of the better managers in history, who knows by the time he’s done, maybe even the best.
De Gea is not lying about that personally, he does not let his head drop or "give up". He has been through every year of this crap since Sir Alex retired, generally done his job to a world class level and constantly berates his teammates who fail to live up to that standard. He also seems to understand and talks more openly than most footballers about how unacceptable it is.But how is what he says honesty? It's the same shit every week, I understand he's the GK and he's not currently the problem - but these excuses (from whoever it is within the squad) is getting very, very tedious and honestly, frustrating cause nothing ever seems to change.
"We will not give up", well the team has given up countless times this season already.
It kills me to say it, but - will never happen. He will be long gone by the time we get our shit together, if we ever do.We have generally beaten him counter attacking. Didnt Ole beat him three times in one season. I think it is the most any manager has beaten him in a single season. But it is counter attacking tactics.
I want to see us have 60 percent possession against him for once.
He did but I remember City bring pretty atrocious in some of those games, for what it's worth. Also absolutely hammering us and we win 2-0 through goals on what felt like our only attacks of the game. 23 shots to our 8 in our 2-0 win last season, and that's exactly how the game felt. We were always on shaky ground with the team Ole built and them sort of results only papered over the cracks. Many of us knew we would collapse eventually under Ole and we did.TBF, only the last MC match in the fall was a poor match for Ole. I think he won 3 in row away vs MC.
Actually, they’ve won 7 league titles.Derby day is a laugh lately. For me today I honestly wanted city to win. Because the thought of Liverpool matching us on 20 league titles is 100x worse than losing a single game against a team that are so small in the grand scheme of things.
City fans are cnutish, yes, and love beating us but the fact is they have only won 5 league titles, 4 x less than ourselves. They haven't won a European Cup, whereas Liverpool have twice as many as we do.
I'd rather see City win 5 league titles on the bounce than Liverpool win one more which will give them the argument to say they are the biggest/most successful english club.
Great point.It's not really this result that is upsetting people. It's not beating Middlesbrough, Burnley, Southampton and Watford, in the last few weeks. That is what really makes you stop and think.
I remember in the second half when they were 3-1 up KDB was still playing very hard and absolutely shouldered Harry off the ball. I hate City but you can’t not admire the way their stars hustle even when the game was handily won.Maguire?? You kidding? The guy got bullied all game, he was horrific.
That was almost comical, Foden just blasting AWB off the ball like a ragdoll.AWB has two speeds, standing perfectly still, and casually jogging. That moment where he jogged to the ball, only to be smashed off it with ease by a player half his size, was just the epitome of him. Zero awareness, and just plays like it doesn't even matter. Dalot isn't the answer either, but Dalot was definitely playing better than AWB recently.
I thought we were ok in the first half, but two awful moments which obviously led to two goals. But we didn't even come out for the 2nd. Ghastly.
Bruno is a good player and can be great. Can’t fault him for his effort as he was one of the very few who ran hard last yesterday. But you can’t compare him to KDB, who has been consistently one of the best players in the PL over the past 5 to 6 years.City were obviously only playing in second gear in the first half, in the second half they maintained it whilst United lacked the energy from the first half. They subbed de Bruyne early, didn’t really do any subs to save players on the bench and still got the «woheeey» from the stands. Many levels in difference of quality, they are 1st and the reds are 5th, very easy to see.
And let’s please put this Fernandes vs de Bruyne-debate to rest, it never really was one. Never mind the goals, one player dictates every game - the other one doesn’t. Yet I got shit for saying just that a few weeks ago.
Completely agree. I thought last night showed a real difference in mentality and effort. However, what was most telling was the technical ability and awareness of the City team. These feckers broke our press consistently with ease. That goaltender, however much of a wanker he is, you have to admit is great at distribution. Their midfielders and defenders just were that much better at retaining possession.If United's average technical level is 3/5, City's technical level is 5/5 across the whole team.
A great squad but a welfare club.Our history/success is bigger/more admirable to a lot of people. Our success can more or less be divided into two sequences and both were down to the genius of Busby and SAF. I think that history appeals to a bigger audience than City doing all they can after 2008 to rebrand the club as a whole - and more or less creating a new club, just with the same name as its predecessor, with its foundation built around sketchy funding and morally dubious owners.
Other than that, we have nothing going for us that is comparable to City - they’re greater at youth, transfers and all around sporting management.
This team has churned through manager after manager. There is a common denominator here and that’s the players. Forget all the analytics and just rely on your own eyes. Would any of these players, aside maybe Sancho, get into that City squad? You look at the performance yesterday esp. the second half it really was Men v boys in all aspects, talent, drive, work rate, mentality. We just have to accept we are just a border line top 4 team. Question is what will the Glazers do about it, The issue goes beyond coaching and players. It’s management, it’s culture and structure. It doesn’t take someone with an MBA to figure this out.Yes, Ralf is responsible for our team not knowing how to complete a pass, how to run, or how to form a cohesive attack. All on Ralf.
My take is the players do not have the fitness to press for the entire 90 minutes. This can only be achieved in the off-season. Also their pressing technique is also a bit haphazard and to become an effective unit, they need time to gel. Because it is haphazard, they tire easily and in the later part of the second half, they deflate. I think it is what it is. We cannot expect anything this season. But there is hope in the off season. Hopefully with a permanent manager, new players and a training regime to up fitness, and tactics drilled to death.City players are superior in every department. They also look like they can run all day. But our players ran out of steam after 45 mins. This is the worst bunch of professional football players we have ever had.
The squad has major discipline issues, fitness issues, prima donnas problem and factions within the squad. We really need a major purging in the summer to have any chance to look like a proper club. This squad is shameful. The least we hope from them is to put in more efforts and match City's running statistic. But no, they given up after only 45 mins running. Lazy feckers.
Because you don't press City with front 6 from minute one. All those chasing will cost your stamina.City players are superior in every department. They also look like they can run all day. But our players ran out of steam after 45 mins. This is the worst bunch of professional football players we have ever had.
The squad has major discipline issues, fitness issues, prima donnas problem and factions within the squad. We really need a major purging in the summer to have any chance to look like a proper club. This squad is shameful. The least we hope from them is to put in more efforts and match City's running statistic. But no, they given up after only 45 mins running. Lazy feckers.
I can see Pep leaving but I see Kloop staying for a long time.I’m convinced this city side will play this high quality football as long as pep coaches them. They’re well trained and drilled to find spaces and make runs within tight spaces.
They’ll go invisible once pep leave them same as klopp for pool. The only luck on our side is both pep and klopp are competing at same period and most probably going to leave in another 2 or 3 years.
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