That shocked me too. Tbf to Rashford he started a yard or two behind and it took a desperate lunge from Dier to get to the ball first. Still, it was weird to see anyone not get burned by Rashford in a foot race. Had no idea Dier was so rapid.2 things I noticed.
Eric Dier is ridiculously fast. He made Rashford look pedestrian.
And Lingard is very slow. With head start of about 5-10 metres, Erikson caught up and overtook Lingard.
Defending - 10/10
Enjoyment - 0/10
Exactly! The winning is the sweetest part.So winning is not enjoyment for you. Watch some circus then.
He actually called it spot on I thought. He criticised Spurs for not doing what we did at Anfield, saying that sometimes the big sides have to do that - basically just don't get beat. That's why their record in the big games is so poor.So, according to Souness, if they came to OT and took a point they would be called big team, and us getting point in Liverpool, was defensive?!
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First game after the international break is away at Arsenal, should be interesting. Cannot see them trying to shut up shop there.He actually called it spot on I thought. He criticised Spurs for not doing what we did at Anfield, saying that sometimes the big sides have to do that - basically just don't get beat. That's why their record in the big games is so poor.
Plus, big games are often cagey and tense. They're rarely enjoyable and, more often than not, the 3 points is all that counts. We beat a close rival, which is the main thing.Exactly! The winning is the sweetest part.
I honestly believe that there are some people in here who don't quite understand the concept of winning.
They probably believe that it's the taking part that counts and the result is irrelevant.
I am trying to be positive, in the face of all this negativity, so lets summarise:
1, we won the game against a team who most people on this forum feared. Some of you thought we'd lose 0-3. Spurs were being talked up on the TV, big time and some of these commentators are now eating humble pie.
2, we completely outplayed Spurs in the 2nd half. Spurs had 1 good chance, which he blew. We had about 4 good chances and scored from 1 of them. Spurs were lucky they only had 1 goal go passed them.
3, We are 2nd in the league, while having 2 of our most important midfielders injured, as well as several other key players injured. Many of our injured players are due to return in November.
MCFC have not yet had an injury crisis and it will be interesting to see how many points they drop, if/when they do.
4, we are top of our group in the CL.
I am very happy with our current situation and is exactly what expected when Jose joined us.
He was slow but more than anything else it's how he basically gave up by blasting it over that annoyed me. It was like "ah man, i've fecked up so here goes"2 things I noticed.
Eric Dier is ridiculously fast. He made Rashford look pedestrian.
And Lingard is very slow. With head start of about 5-10 metres, Erikson caught up and overtook Lingard.
This.I am surprised at the negativity. It was not boring at all. We attacked much more than Spurs did. Spurs is not some middle of the table team. There are on level with us and drew with Real Madrid in Madrid in the CL. They are in the inform team. They created only one chance and we created a lot more. Mikhi was getting better in the second half and if Rashford was a bit more alert he should have scored from the rebound from Mikhi's shot on goal. Lukaku hit the post too. So it is not such a bad performance as some people make it out to be. In fact it is a good performance.
I agree. Entitlement complex from some posters.I am surprised at the negativity. It was not boring at all. We attacked much more than Spurs did. Spurs is not some middle of the table team. There are on level with us and drew with Real Madrid in Madrid in the CL. They are in the inform team. They created only one chance and we created a lot more. Mikhi was getting better in the second half and if Rashford was a bit more alert he should have scored from the rebound from Mikhi's shot on goal. Lukaku hit the post too. So it is not such a bad performance as some people make it out to be. In fact it is a good performance.
Get your facts straight before posting negativity against United. Dembele came on as a sub today, replacing Sissoko after 62 minutes.Let's not kid ourselves. Spurs had no Kane. No Dembele. No Wanyama. And we played the entire match with three central defenders and two defensive midfielders in Herrera and Matic who are not creative - in that they won't rack you up assists - and they don't score.
I feel we got away with it today and have lost swagger. The horses are very much on the reins.
I'd chip in for that beer too. Cheers.At some point, someone is going to punch Dele Alli in the face. I want to buy that person a beer.
I thought so as well. It was an intense game with both teams playing a very committed, determined, aggressive game. The fact that we created the better chances while limiting Spurs to so few good chances encapsulates how well we controlled the game. For us to be able to pull this off with a couple of our key players injured against such a strong opponent, I think we did well.I am surprised at the negativity. It was not boring at all. We attacked much more than Spurs did. Spurs is not some middle of the table team. There are on level with us and drew with Real Madrid in Madrid in the CL. They are in the inform team. They created only one chance and we created a lot more. Mikhi was getting better in the second half and if Rashford was a bit more alert he should have scored from the rebound from Mikhi's shot on goal. Lukaku hit the post too. So it is not such a bad performance as some people make it out to be. In fact it is a good performance.
I would to see that.It could be really good with fellaini and pogba in for Herrera and Mkhitaryan.
You didn't enjoy Martial scoring the winner and making sure we got three points?Defending - 10/10
Enjoyment - 0/10
He obviously didn't see how most of the 75,000 crowd inside Old Trafford enjoyed it - the place erupted!You didn't enjoy Martial scoring the winner and making sure we got three points?
Jesus, come on. We won a tough match.Defending - 10/10
Enjoyment - 0/10
I only saw it once but I don't think Rashford done 'well' in that situation; in fact in a lot of those kick and run scenarios, his approach is very inconsistent. Sometimes he steadies himself and can easily breeze past players but sometimes he kicks it ahead without no momentum and ends up half a step/yard back (because his back foot is planted and not in the acceleration movement), which most defenders can anticipate and recover from.That shocked me too. Tbf to Rashford he started a yard or two behind and it took a desperate lunge from Dier to get to the ball first. Still, it was weird to see anyone not get burned by Rashford in a foot race. Had no idea Dier was so rapid.
Some posts are just so stupid it's hard to tell if they do it just to get reactions.He obviously didn't see how most of the 75,000 crowd inside Old Trafford enjoyed it - the place erupted!
Kane has a shite record against us for some reason even under Moyes and LVG.So exactly the same result as last season, when we weren't crippled with injury. Don't mention Harry Kane he didn't do much in last season game, so he might as well been missing then as well. Good performance, good result and Jose out thought Poch.
YepWhy do some people think we do not deserve to win? We hit the post, we scored, their keeper made three good saves that probably would have been goals while DeGea had an easy time. Yes they had one miss, but it missed the goal. Now long before that if Valencia's effort would have been on target it is a goal too.
That's a great summary!Exactly! The winning is the sweetest part.
I honestly believe that there are some people in here who don't quite understand the concept of winning.
They probably believe that it's the taking part that counts and the result is irrelevant.
I am trying to be positive, in the face of all this negativity, so lets summarise:
1, we won the game against a team who most people on this forum feared. Some of you thought we'd lose 0-3. Spurs were being talked up on the TV, big time and some of these commentators are now eating humble pie.
2, we completely outplayed Spurs in the 2nd half. Spurs had 1 good chance, which he blew. We had about 4 good chances and scored from 1 of them. Spurs were lucky they only had 1 goal go passed them.
3, We are 2nd in the league, while having 2 of our most important midfielders injured, as well as several other key players injured. Many of our injured players are due to return in November.
MCFC have not yet had an injury crisis and it will be interesting to see how many points they drop, if/when they do.
4, we are top of our group in the CL.
I am very happy with our current situation and is exactly what expected when Jose joined us.
So true. Many people conveniently forget all those cagey games we played under SAF against other top sides or in europe.Plus, big games are often cagey and tense. They're rarely enjoyable and, more often than not, the 3 points is all that counts. We beat a close rival, which is the main thing.
The Liverpool game last week? Holy shit that’s an atrocious record.Kane has a shite record against us for some reason even under Moyes and LVG.
Spurs under Poch have won 1 game out of 17 against the top 6 sides.
I am pretty sure that’s just away from home.The Liverpool game last week? Holy shit that’s an atrocious record.
Ah. That makes a lot more sense. Seemed an extremely far-fetched stat!I am pretty sure that’s just away from home.
No. We won against both at home.Spurs beat us and Chelsea last year?
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