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I dont know how many times now ole got us to lose at home,any proper club would have sack him already we become a joke.
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Same here mate, I hear you, but you missed the Aguero moment (which keeps getting rammed down our throats over the airwaves) from your list...absolutely crushing.I have been a United fan since 1968.Over 50 years. I have seen us win it all and lose it all. Relegation in 74, just 6 years after winning the European Cup didn't feel as bad as this.
Losing the title we had all but won in 92 wasn't as bad as this, and we lost that title to Leeds! We lost in at Anfield!
Losing the title in 95 at West Ham. Wasn't as bad as this. At West Ham!
Losing the title at home to Arsenal in 2002 wasn't as bad.
Losing 1~4 at home to Liverpool wasn't as bad as this.
Losing 1~6 at home to City wasn't as bad as this.
Because all those other years we had a team, we fought.We had pride.
Not this lot. This lot are talented but they are a mess.
Actually, this is probably one tiny crumb of comfort from yesterday. At least the performance got an emotional reaction from the players involved. Would have been even more depressing had it not.Heard they had ‘handbags at ten paces’ so Ole took them both off.
To be fair, not everyone is a diving asshole clown. That is not professionalism. I don't blame Tony. Him getting sent off was regrettable, but a lot of even bigger players have reacted similarly. It happens. The ref should have sufficed with a yellow, or should have sent both of them off. Anyway, it is what it is.The amateurish behaviour runs deep from players to manager. An experienced pro like Martial not only deciding to stay up after receiving an elbow, but also indulge in retribution, something he knew would not go unpunished. You do everything in the book to make your team have a better shot at winning. And what did OGS come up with post match? An ideological rant about good behaviour, bread and water and other gibberish. Pathetic.
Would have loved to be a fly on the dressing room wall after the teams went back out then, did they carry it on after.Could be complete nonsense but a guest on the ‘United Stand’ channel said apparently Bruno and Matic had a fight at half time, which is why they were both taken off. Wouldn’t be surprised.
Ole, and the rest of the team should forget this match and move on. This horrible match is not an indication of our team's quality. It really isn't, but we do have real problems to solve and we just need to keep a cool head and work on themJust rewatched the highlights. Wow...Don't think I've ever seen a team concede 6 and get a man sent off all from obvious mistakes. Not even sure what Ole is supposed to do with his players putting in that kind of shit show.
Football is weird sometimes...to me it looked like the team was completely demoralised by the first 4 mistakes. Their 3 goals and the red card.I hear you, but this is emotional and unfair. Most of our players on the pitch were angry, devastated and carr
Ole, and the rest of the team should forget this match and move on. This horrible match is not an indication of our team's quality. It really isn't, but we do have real problems to solve and we just need to keep a cool head and work on them
They aren't really that talented, but they are a mess. There is no leadership, no standards and no consequences for failure anymore. If I had played for United in those special Fergie teams I'd be absolutely fecking livid at some of this lot. Just pure concentrated embarrassing.Not this lot. This lot are talented but they are a mess.
They are talented. It's a cop out to say theyre not.They aren't really that talented, but they are a mess. There is no leadership, no standards and no consequences for failure anymore. If I had played for United in those special Fergie teams I'd be absolutely fecking livid at some of this lot. Just pure concentrated embarrassing.
Unfortunately most of the players did as well.So glad I missed this game....
I admire the optimism... but doubt it.Genuinely don't know how much to read into games at the moment. Seems to be something fundamentally unusual about this season. Records are being broken all over the shop, high scorelines are increasingly regular, penalties are through the roof, the first draw in the PL this season was the 3-3 draw between West Brom and Chelsea, massive winning margins are more common than I can ever remember them being, if a game swings in one direction at any point it seems almost impossible for it to swing back. No crowds, varying levels of fitness, COVID waiting to strike at any point and disrupt team plans - I'm not sure if it's wise to look into these recent games for signs of anything at all. If the 6-1 defeat to Spurs was in isolation, or part of a regular season, then I'd understand the anger (I understand it anyway, because who likes to see their team lose so heavily?), but right now United could easily go and win 6-1 in the next game, given the state of things. Something is very, very unbalanced in the PL right now.
Already this season we've had:
Liverpool 4-3 Leeds
Everton 5-2 West Brom
Leeds 4-3 Fulham
Southampton 2-5 Spurs
Leicester 4-2 Burnley
West Brom 3-3 Chelsea
Man City 2-5 Leicester
West Ham 4-0 Wolves
Leicester 0-3 West Ham
United 1-6 Spurs
Villa 7-2 Liverpool
These are absolutely crazy results in crazy games that seem to violently swing in all sorts of directions on a week-by-week basis. The games being played at the moment are more like training matches, which means all sorts of factors have completely shifted. Obviously this isn't a defence of Solskjaer, who was never the right appointment and definitely needs to go, but these kinds of scorelines just aren't normal. Had the stadium been full yesterday, I think Spurs still would have won, but only 3-1 or 4-1. We always knew fans had a psychological impact on football matches but this seems to have gone beyond anything we thought would happen. In isolation, an 6-1 home defeat is a terrible result, but in the context of the rest of the season I think it's just an unfortunate defeat in a series of unbelievably bizarre circumstances.
I don't get why I keep seeing this on the Caf, we where not getting battered before the red, they where pouncing on stupid mistakes our defenders where making not playing some extra ordinary football that we couldn't cope with.It’s quite amazing to think if Martial goes down holding his face after the Lamela ‘elbow’, Spurs almost certainly go down to 10 men and the game is turned on its head. Not saying we would have automatically won because we were getting battered at the time but still, it has to make a dramatic change to the whole tone and feel of the match. In that one statement from Ole after the game, he showed his naivety at this cut throat level of football management.
Talented players play hard for their professional pride and until the end regardless of the manager. I didn't say they aren't talented, I just don't think they're as talented as their stature at the club, wages and pedigree suggests for some of the important core players who share responsibility of the pulse/heartbeat of the team. (Bar Rashford and Bruno)They are talented. It's a cop out to say theyre not.
Let me explain that. I do recall it quite well! Fact is thought that that title was out of our control once we lost to City.Same here mate, I hear you, but you missed the Aguero moment (which keeps getting rammed down our throats over the airwaves) from your list...absolutely crushing.
At least we agreed that using “pre-season” is a lame excuse.No. But you need to learn humility.
We didn't win to Palace and we didn't win to Spurs are two different things. No such thing called lame excuse if it's fact.At least we agreed that using “pre-season” is a lame excuse.
It was nothing but he did raise his hand and give him the mildest of slaps so as retaliation it was always likely to end badly. Lamella is however an utter disgrace. Going down like there was a sniper in the crowd from such a slight contact is simply cheating and I hope he gets a lengthy ban. Not sure if there is a mechanism for that but there should be.Nah it was a red card. Martial knows the rules as do we all. Any time that happens it results in a red, and the game went to pot afterwards. In fact the game went to pot after the penalty when our defence showed how utterly shambolic they are.
They played against Spurs, like they played against Brighton and Palace.We didn't win to Palace and we didn't win to Spurs are two different things. No such thing called lame excuse if it's fact.
What next? You're going to say every single games we didn't win in the last 20 years are all same reason?
Yes it was pretty pathetic, but tbf many players nowadays would react the same. I‘m quite sure if it was Bruno he‘d have responded with half a dozen death rolls together with a blood curdling scream before dusting himself off and calmly walking away as if nothing had ever happened.It was nothing but he did raise his hand and give him the mildest of slaps so as retaliation it was always likely to end badly. Lamella is however an utter disgrace. Going down like there was a sniper in the crowd from such a slight contact is simply cheating and I hope he gets a lengthy ban. Not sure if there is a mechanism for that but there should be.
Palace and Spurs are two different games, two different teams, different quality & manager. No point comparing them.They played against Spurs, like they played against Brighton and Palace.
Don't be so defensive, man. WHat's the purpose brought in those last 20 years? Those are different players, tactics, and managers.
Make ' deliberate provocation' as serious an offence as 'physical retaliation' is... or ignore 'slap for slap'!It was nothing but he did raise his hand and give him the mildest of slaps so as retaliation it was always likely to end badly. Lamella is however an utter disgrace. Going down like there was a sniper in the crowd from such a slight contact is simply cheating and I hope he gets a lengthy ban. Not sure if there is a mechanism for that but there should be.
Anthony Taylor