Rashford (or rashy as some like to call him.......) and OGS lost us this final.
Bruno was miles offside.Can we also talk about that Rashy miss? Anyone find a freeze frame if it was offside or not?
add Lindelof to the listRashford (or rashy as some like to call him.......) and OGS lost us this final.
We didn’t lose it last year. We were fuxked in the semi. Just about got through in the quarter.Unfortunately the teams major weaknesses of inability to keep the ball, players just not showing up, inability to defend set pieces and the obviously problem of too many gang average footballers getting game time just cost us against a team we were clearly superior to.
To lose the Europa League these last 2 years when we really should have been winning it also shows major mentality issues with this team.
Tried hard, scored a goal but had two good chances in 1st half were he tried to pass it and should have shot. I dont think he had one of his better games but far from the worse player.Cavani??
There was no game plan. Other than "throw all the good players out and hope we win by a piece of brilliance".That was our best team out there no question. Lack of squad depth and quality in about 3/4 areas is what stops us winning matches like this. Not the coach. The game plan was fine the quality isn’t
Surely it's on those players as well?But he found out like the rest of us - and did absolutely nothing about it. It's on him.
Two players out of 25.True. Wouldn't take Kane and Son at United then?
He did the same thing in the semi final last year.Lost to Spanish Burnley due to players having nothing left in the tank in extra time. Clearly, either Ole doesn't think the subs are good enough or he's scared to take risks.
Exactly. He’s a total passenger. Get the ball, pass it back. Literally anyone could do that.I've got to the point now where I feel AWB is SO bad at attacking that I'm willing to give up his defensive abilities and replace him with someone who can get a half decent cross in. He's absolutely hopeless going forward. Has no idea what to do.
Our brightest forward was running on fumes. He was blowing half way through the second halfRoot and branch issue at the club when the managers first substitution in a European final is in the 99th minute and it’s a DM for one of your brightest forwards. That there sums up the whole debacle tonight. If I was DVB, I would be ringing my agent on the way home and looking for the first flight out of Manchester. Horrible horrible night on our recent stormy history.
Imagine that, hundreds of different people having different opinions. Never mind the fact that these people have zero effect on the club.That's nothing, there's an entire forum with a blind spot for 10 other players.
We dominated them for huge portions of the game. Problem. What problem?Anyone with a brain and functioning eyes who's not on the Glazers' payroll or in the Ole cult can see the problem today.
You are delusional.
Haha yeah I saw his post above. It really was though. Ole can’t control players playing shit but he can make an effort to fix it. I really take issue with our subs and how our plan became increasingly negative.Careful, or @Gary_Walsh_Nou_Camp_Hell will chastise you
To be fair, Greenwood was tired as hell that moment, but I agree that subs came late and were meh.Root and branch issue at the club when the managers first substitution in a European final is in the 99th minute and it’s a DM for one of your brightest forwards. That there sums up the whole debacle tonight. If I was DVB, I would be ringing my agent on the way home and looking for the first flight out of Manchester. Horrible horrible night on our recent stormy history.
What did you expect ? It was David against Goliath for them. They played to win it and wanted it more.Let's be honest, Villareal absolutely shithoused it. Defended for 115 minutes. We weren't great but we deserved to win in the 90 mins. Ole should have had a plan b in place though as we looked dead in extra time, also should have Tim Krul'd it.
What sort of stupid logic is that? You think 11 men should beat 16 over 120 minutes?We played our first choice XI, due to injuries. The Cafe is currently whinging that the manager got his subs (players and timing) wrong. So, if the starting XI needs 5 subs to beat Villareal, how are they good enough?
Your question doesn't make sense. The players were good enough, but several of them were tired and needed to be substituted. Emery had 5 fresh players on, and we struggled as the game progress into extra time. Ole saving his substitutes for penalties is frankly embarrassing for a club of this stature. He needs to be proactive and go for a win.Which is it, mate?
He got out managed by emery its that simple. When Emery saw his team struggling he changed their formation instantly and that changed the game Ole did nothing until 105 minutes. Its clear this is on Ole.He's not bulletproof.
But I don't fecking call for his job every time we lose.
Get over it. We lost. But this is not on Ole.
We lost on Pens.
If we'd won.
NO ONE WOULD GIVE A SINGLE FECK.
Give fecking over it will you, Ole is our manager and he is here to stay. We're moving in the right direction.
Were you saying that in the run up to the final? Because I thought we handled each team pretty well. If that was a two legged final.. we win it but that’s footballThere was no game plan. Other than "throw all the good players out and hope we win by a piece of brilliance".
Doesn't even matter. They made 5 subs in the 90 minutes. We made none. We made subs for penalties and gave up any hope of winning in ET before ET even kicked off. And we didn't make the single most important change if winning a penalty shootout was the aim - taking off De Gea.
Ole is clueless about how to affect a game of football.
And you sound like a WUM. They won the shootout lottery, which was the only way they were gonna win this match after parking the bus for most of it. No way did they deserve the win.Yiu
You sound like Klopp
It's a lazy criticism to be fair. What would you have done differently?Haha yeah I saw his post above. It really was though. Ole can’t control players playing shit but he can make an effort to fix it. I really take issue with our subs and how our plan became increasingly negative.
He only got half season. He is a top manager who will suit United.The guy who cant even win Ligue 1 with PSG? Have a day off!
I honestly think it's the former. Our bench tonight was very average. The squad needs more depth.Lost to the Spanish Burnley due to players having nothing left in the tank in extra time. Clearly, either Ole doesn't think the subs are not good enough or he's scared to take risks.
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