99withaflake
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Shall we all agree not to read too much into the game, and not to get too emotional, whatever the result of this pre-season friendly?
Tbh, I just want to see the first teamers do well. It’s way too early in some of the younger lads careers to look into how they perform this summer.Shall we all agree not to read too much into the game, and not to get too emotional, whatever the result of this pre-season friendly?
Well i've obviously got more confidence than you that they wouldn't get smashed, but agree Fred and Shaw especially need to play and get at least 60/70 minutes with only the Bayern match to come, and it's pointless DDG travelling to America and not playing so he'll probably get the same, but Alexis, Herrera and A. Pereira and one or two others need a rest.They dont gain anything by getting smashed. We still need our first team players to actually play because the season is approaching. There is little to gain from naming a youth eleven.
I think they can at least play 45 mins.Well i've obviously got more confidence than you that they wouldn't get smashed, but agree Fred and Shaw especially need to play and get at least 60/70 minutes with only the Bayern match to come, and it's pointless DDG travelling to America and not playing so he'll probably get the same, but Alexis, Herrera and A. Pereira and one or two others need a rest.
Same here man. I just want the first teamers to improve their match fitness and some of the youngsters to get a run out. All about being physically ready to start the new season. Wins are a nice bonus for the fans who attend.Tbh, I just want to see the first teamers do well. It’s way too early in some of the younger lads careers to look into how they perform this summer.
They could, but is it worth the risk ?I think they can at least play 45 mins.
Well they need to play. We really do not gain much from Greenwood playing instead of Sanchez for example. If he is good enough he will go on more tours and eventually get his time.They could, but is it worth the risk ?
Couldn't care less about the result. I do want to see us playing some decent football, though.Shall we all agree not to read too much into the game, and not to get too emotional, whatever the result of this pre-season friendly?
It would be nice but that's a bonus. Minutes and fitness is first priority.Couldn't care less about the result. I do want to see us playing some decent football, though.
Mourinho was the one seemingly freaking out about the Liverpool result.Shall we all agree not to read too much into the game, and not to get too emotional, whatever the result of this pre-season friendly?
Dunno how many minutes Alexis and Herrera have played on the tour so far but i'd guess it's more than anybody else, if they do too much too soon and break down we'll be knackered going into the Leicester City match as we'd go into it without a senior midfielder or forward if anything happened to those two, so it's best they rest up and get themselves ready for the Bayern match where Mourinho will have to pick as close a team as the one that will start the first League match and give them 80+ minutesWell they need to play. We really do not gain much from Greenwood playing instead of Sanchez for example. If he is good enough he will go on more tours and eventually get his time.
That's Rooney and he plays in the USA now.
I mean, Alexis missed the first game as well. I don't think 45 mins will break him.Dunno how many minutes Alexis and Herrera have played on the tour so far but i'd guess it's more than anybody else, if they do too much too soon and break down we'll be knackered going into the Leicester City match as we'd go into it without a senior midfielder or forward if anything happened to those two, so it's best they rest up and get themselves ready for the Bayern match where Mourinho will have to pick as close a team as the one that will start the first League match and give them 80+ minutes
It would be nice to see some decent football but these games have almost no impact on the type of football that will be played in competitive matches.Mourinho was the one seemingly freaking out about the Liverpool result.
I don't give a shit about the score. But I do want to see something, anything, that points to decent football in the upcoming season.
Yeah, i'd forgot about that, but the fact remains that with Lukaku and Rashford not back yet, and Martial playing silly buggers we don't have anybody bar Alexis to play up top in the first League game, so why risk him, even for 45 minutes when you've got lads like Chong, Bohui and Greenwood chomping at the bit for a chance to show what they can do up front, and against the European champions ?I mean, Alexis missed the first game as well. I don't think 45 mins will break him.
Because Sanchez needs to prepare for the season and Chong, Bohui and Greenwood will not be relevant for the first team after this week.Yeah, i'd forgot about that, but the fact remains that with Lukaku and Rashford not back yet, and Martial playing silly buggers we don't have anybody bar Alexis to play up top in the first League game, so why risk him, even for 45 minutes when you've got lads like Chong, Bohui and Greenwood chomping at the bit for a chance to show what they can do up front, and against the European champions ?
Well if Mourinho keeps flogging Alexis, as he seems to be doing with most of the senior players this tour for some reason, one of the young lads may need to play up front in the League until the World Cup players are back and up to speed, so another reason to play them against Real Madrid, no ?Because Sanchez needs to prepare for the season and Chong, Bohui and Greenwood will not be relevant for the first team after this week.
65 minsWell if Mourinho keeps flogging Alexis, as he seems to be doing with most of the senior players this tour for some reason, one of the young lads may need to play up front in the League until the World Cup players are back and up to speed, so another reason to play them against Real Madrid, no ?
Pre-season games are still practices for what's coming. An opportunity to test out things. What I'd like to see is some *change* from what we saw all of last season. Some indication that we might be a little more ambitious and entertaining. If what we see is just more of the same, unimaginative stuff, you start to wonder.It would be nice to see some decent football but these games have almost no impact on the type of football that will be played in competitive matches.
We've played well in pre-season games before and then got off to bad start in the league, and also played badly in pre-season games before starting well in the league. They're about fitness more than anything.
I understand you'd like to see some more attractive football next season, so would I (I hate getting up at 4am to watch borefests), but I think it may be more of the same again.
Thanks for that, i'd searched high and low for the info on minutes played, and that's an obscene amount, 65 minutes in his first match is bad enough, but him playing 90 minutes in the second is criminal, it's almost like Mourinho is hoping he'll break down so Ed Woodward would have to give him funds to buy a new striker - I wouldn't expect any outfield player to be getting a full-game until at least the 4th or 5th pre-season match.65 mins
90 mins
81 mins
Those are the minutes Sanchez has played the last 3 games. He can play another 45 mins.
The fact that Pereira is being used as a number 6 and is always looking to cut through lines with his passing is probably one of the biggest aspects of this pre season so far. Apart from that, we dont have the rest of our team to really try anything, apart from Sanchez up top and Mata playing off him. It doesn't matter because Lukaku will be playing up top anyway, Sanchez on the left and Mata on the right. What can we really get from this pre season apart from Pereira's position? Even Fred and Dalot have been missing so far.Pre-season games are still practices for what's coming. An opportunity to test out things. What I'd like to see is some *change* from what we saw all of last season. Some indication that we might be a little more ambitious and entertaining. If what we see is just more of the same, unimaginative stuff, you start to wonder.
It really isn't obscene. He can play another 45 minutes.Thanks for that, i'd searched high and low for the info on minutes played, and that's an obscene amount, 65 minutes in his first match is bad enough, but him playing 90 minutes in the second is criminal, it's almost like Mourinho is hoping he'll break down so Ed Woodward would have to give him funds to buy a new striker - I wouldn't expect any outfield player to be getting a full-game until at least the 4th or 5th pre-season match.
But what if we beat then 5-0?Shall we all agree not to read too much into the game, and not to get too emotional, whatever the result of this pre-season friendly?
Well we'll just have to disagree on that then. Where did you get the figures from ?It really isn't obscene. He can play another 45 minutes.
I'll be celebrating for a week. Booze, cocaine, strip clubs. You're welcome to join me. We don't beat Real Madrid very oftenBut what if we beat then 5-0?
With 2 shots on target?
99withafishscale.I'll be celebrating for a week. Booze, cocaine, strip clubs. You're welcome to join me. We don't beat Real Madrid very often![]()
99withafishscale.
Soccerway.Well we'll just have to disagree on that then. Where did you get the figures from ?
Cheers, a new one on me thatSoccerway.
And that's the main thing. So much in our modern life is utterly blown out of proportion.Same here man. I just want the first teamers to improve their match fitness and some of the youngsters to get a run out. All about being physically ready to start the new season. Wins are a nice bonus for the fans who attend.
Back in the 90s and early Noughties, when we were dominating English football, we lost pre-season games to Birmingham, Barnsley and Aberdeen, whilst drawing games with Shelbourne, Wrexham, Coventry, Bristol Rovers, Bristol City, Cambridge and Swansea.
Many of the performances in those games were pretty woeful. It wasn't like we were playing good football but were unlucky. They're literally just a run out.
Imagine the meltdown if social media was around back then.
Just do what I do and watch the game the next day. Just have to ignore the internet untill thenCannot bloody decide if I should stay up or go to sleep early to wake up. Mind you for me it's patrician 2 am, not plebian 1 am which makes it completely different.
Man where's fun in that, I love those pre-season fecked up hours when you wake up early or stay up late, provided you can afford it due to your job and so on.Just do what I do and watch the game the next day. Just have to ignore the internet untill then
Probably many players from Castilla but an attack with Bale,Benzema and minutes for Vinicius.
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Only if we win.Shall we all agree not to read too much into the game, and not to get too emotional, whatever the result of this pre-season friendly?
Hasn't Mascarell joined Schalke?i'd like to see Omar Mascarell and Odegaard too
Yes,I was wrong,I meant Raúl de Tomás,the striker that was at RayoHasn't Mascarell joined Schalke?