I think that for me is the only massive advantage.
Despite on average saving more money than you'll spend with cheaper games, no online fees and possibly even in future not having to pay as much as a new console to upgrade?
I think it’s partly down to change in time and commitments.Despite on average saving more money than you'll spend with cheaper games, no online fees and possibly even in future not having to pay as much as a new console to upgrade?
Fair enough I suppose
And that's totally fair enough
Completely agree. It also just isn't cool. Change my mind.
I dunno, I used to destroy Weaste in the PS3 vs X360 debates!
You destroyed in talking sense of course. But in terms of numbers it's always been very out of balance. For example, Weaste had an advantage in that there was a mini-Weaste (aka Elvis) running around like Flavor Flav "Yeah booooiii"-ing everything Weaste said.
Name one.
To be fair 90% of what you both discussed went over my head. Didn't have a clue
It's interesting looking back now just how disastrous the PS3 launch was for Sony.Yeah, they fecked a lot of it up. To be fair though, as I said all along, the problem wasn't the Cell it was lack of talented developers (it was a huge problem then as they switched to uni degrees not worth a wank) coupled with the money men not giving to time to learn. But, if you look at what's happened since, Sony learned how important devs and ease of use were and now we got the PS4 and PS5 made for go over show.To be fair 90% of what you both discussed went over my head. Didn't have a clue
) was bang on the money.I think people will gradually pay less attention to it but the games will continue to benefit from it. It's not a star feature like ray-tracing (unless it's really in your face like the rift mechanic in the upcoming Ratchet game) but it's certainly not a gimmick either. I think the main difference with Cell is that it's not unusual technology, people who build gaming PCs generally put super fast storage in as well, it's just that PS5's solution is really fast at this point in time.In a few years time, I wonder if anyone will remember the hype about the PS5 ssd?
I mean, it's a great system and all and it should promote a rethink in exclusive games and how to use it (just like the Cell should have, but look in here about people actually calling it crap now!!), but as always I think people will forget about it past the initial launch. If not, PS gamers will certainly feel what PC ones have forever about other machines holding their potential back.
Oh and I love how I/O has become a rival to this gen's buzzword of ray tracing
Ahh, but it's not just super fast. It's something that can actually be used to define the game around it. Much like the Cell was, and the Emotion Engine before it. For the best use of the architecture, it'll need teams to actually use it for more than quick loading times. It's like Nintendo do when they introduced mainstream motion controls, or dual screens, or 3D screens. Their own teams come up with creative game changing uses, whilst others don't. Those latter results are still cool, but forgotten past the initial buzz.
The difference being that it's something a lot of devs will want to build their game around, because it makes their life easier. You couldn't really say the same about Cell.Ahh, but it's not just super fast. It's something that can actually be used to define the game around it. Much like the Cell was, and the Emotion Engine before it. For the best use of the architecture, it'll need teams to actually use it for more than quick loading times. It's like Nintendo do when they introduced mainstream motion controls, or dual screens, or 3D screens. Their own teams come up with creative game changing uses, whilst others don't. Those latter results are still cool, but forgotten past the initial buzz.
But you are correct, multi games will restrict the PS5 to the lowest common denominator in some regards, just like the PC always has been. But that's not to say the XsX nor the PC can't be fast still, let's remember the PS5 has a new pipeline but it's still not hugely powerful in other areas, so balance will inevitably come.
BTW the best thing about that Ratchet game, and like the little devil inside one, isn't the level loading tricks. I loved the particles, the grass and the art style and the engines behind them. They showed that beyond all the usual nonsense of "x times more powerful!" and all the fluff of bigger textures and more polys, that the true beauty can be in the scenes themselves and how much more effort we will see in shaders, effects and lighting. Also, the Ratchet demo was super smooth in terms of framerate, people who argue "30fps is enough!" really don't get just how good a constant 60 actually is. And even then, that's years out of date
The good news is that with the amount of talented first-party studios, you can be fairly confident it'll be put to good use. And yeah jeez, funny how the Xbox is winning everything currently so the consensus is it’s pointless to own one. I think Bosws87 is trying his best to mention it on every page.
What is the Xbox winning?
And yeah jeez, funny how the Xbox is winning everything currently so the consensus is it’s pointless to own one. I think Bosws87 is trying his best to mention it on every page.
Everything except load times by the looks of it?
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Checking in. What’s the narrative this time round?
They’ve done some great work in the past 2-3 years to try and claw back some market share. Gamepass is so good, like worth buying a console to use the service good. Then the One X release was also amazing, Red Dead 2 on the One X will be my best moment of this generation to date it’s draw dropping.
It's out of balance in general. PS4 has comfortably won this battle and has the much bigger hold of the market. Only apt that it's represented here.
Everything but the actual console war.
When you weren't trying to pretend with every few posts that you still have some insider industry knowledge you mean?
That's basically every gaming forum on the internet. It's just simply a numbers game. The Xbox brand is dead in most countries.
yep!
