mariachi-19
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I'll have two number 9s, a number 9 large, a number 6 with extra dip, a number 7, two number 45s, one with cheese, and a large soda
I'll have two number 9s, a number 9 large, a number 6 with extra dip, a number 7, two number 45s, one with cheese, and a large soda
Well that's not exactly true.
I suggested that would be the case earlier and a few posters said it doesn't matter that the S is less powerful, because it's the same as developing for PC's of different power levels.
It’s unlikely due to money. If you’re developing a game, the primary goal is for it to make as much cash as possible which means hitting more platforms. There are very few studios out there that at the top level worry about artistic integrity more than they do making a profit.Surely its a real worry down the line if a developer wants to make a game for X and PS5 only, MIcrosoft won't leave support of the S behind but it sort of pushes them toward a PS5 exclusive. Probably not a likely scenario but it could happen I'm guessing.
That's a potentially big issue though with development costs as high as they are. If they can just lower the resolution and turn some effects off it'll be worth the hassle but developing separate assets is potentially a huge cost which may not be worth it. Comparing to the PC situation is not really the same as yes, you can turn off shaders and effects but if it still doesn't run acceptably then you need an upgrade or buy a different game. Not every game will run OK on every PC with everything turned off as the assets don't change.What the hell do people expect for £250? Of course, games are not going to run great on it. In a couple of years, you might start seeing 1080p 30fps games on it. And yes it's more work for Devs. Not all are against the console, either.
It's a console that's £250 and given people the chance to play next gen games for the next 5 years or so.
Thats what they’re saying, but some devs are apparently doubting it, as per the tweet above. Certainly the marketing implies that the Series S can do everything at 1440p that the Series X can do at 4k.Hang on, am I missing something. I thought I read yesterday the S was aiming for 1140p at 60fps but I'm reading from some on here now it's ultimately a 1080p machine not capable of running future AAA titles?
Edit: Yeah just read that it's aiming for 1140p at 60hz, so not sure why some on here are saying the games are going to be vastly lesser versions. They'll run at a slightly lower resolution but it's still a big improvement on 1080p and the console itself still packs a punch for people that aren't ready for full 4K in terms of investment.
Oh yeah see that now. I don't know though, can't see Microsoft marketing it as that and then it turning out to be something resemling a current gen machine. That'd be very daft.Thats what they’re saying, but some devs are apparently doubting it, as per the tweet above. Certainly the marketing implies that the Series S can do everything at 1440p that the Series X can do at 4k.
Just because it's non 4K doesn't mean it's still not a very capable next gen console. I've both a 1440p and 4K monitor and there's not a whole lot in the difference. Plus 4K TV's are crazy pricey at the moment and the budget ones have refresh rates below 60hz.What's the point of buying a non-4k console that's supposed to last 7 years? (3 if there's midgen upgrades again)
Short term purchase or budget purchase? I dunno...
It's cheap. It's all some can afford or want.What's the point of buying a non-4k console that's supposed to last 7 years? (3 if there's midgen upgrades again)
Short term purchase or budget purchase? I dunno...
Theirs a massive differenceJust because it's non 4K doesn't mean it's still not a very capable next gen console. I've both a 1140p and 4K monitor and there's not a whole lot in the difference. Plus 4K TV's are crazy pricey at the moment and the budget ones have refresh rates below 60hz.
Haha my bad.Theirs a massive difference
1140p doesn't exist while 4k does!
I'm only picking up on this cause you've said it a few times close together 1440p*
Not everyone can afford to drop $499.What's the point of buying a non-4k console that's supposed to last 7 years? (3 if there's midgen upgrades again)
Short term purchase or budget purchase? I dunno...
Wait then? It's a budget console and I get it, but how many of you lot area interested? I don't have a 4k TV but I know I'll be getting one in the near future and I'm one of the late ones....Not everyone can afford to drop $499.
For you, yes it would be better waiting. But for many people they play two games a year and don't care about 4k gaming.Wait then? It's a budget console and I get it, but how many of you lot area interested? I don't have a 4k TV but I know I'll be getting one in the near future and I'm one of the late ones....
Imagine having to upgrade again in a few years? Better off just getting the X imo...
Those people don't usually buy next gen consoles on release. People who tend to buy early on do so because it's the latest and greatest. I can't help feel that the Venn diagram between budget conscious gamers happy with lower specs and people keen enough to gamble on a next gen machine is pretty small.For you, yes it would be better waiting. But for many people they play two games a year and don't care about 4k gaming.
A lot of people don’t care about 4k. Not sure most games are good enough graphics to make the most of it anyway personally, but competitively it’s all about fps anyway.What's the point of buying a non-4k console that's supposed to last 7 years? (3 if there's midgen upgrades again)
Short term purchase or budget purchase? I dunno...
I think the $299 price tag is there to entice a certain crowd to jump in early. Whether it works or not, who knows? The Xbox brand is not particularly strong right now, so it may well fail.Those people don't usually buy next gen consoles on release. People who tend to buy early on do so because it's the latest and greatest. I can't help feel that the Venn diagram between budget conscious gamers happy with lower specs and people keen enough to gamble on a next gen machine is pretty small.
Well I was saying that earlier in the thread and some of y'all were disagreeing. Regardless, people may not care that much right now but in a couple years?A lot of people don’t care about 4k. Not sure most games are good enough graphics to make the most of it anyway personally, but competitively it’s all about fps anyway.
Going from the og Xbox one, I’m happy to have 4k, but better graphics and/or fps interests me more.
It's well usable in 1440p though. If you're not bothered about the best of the best, it's not like it's gonna become unbearable.Well I was saying that earlier in the thread and some of y'all were disagreeing. Regardless, people may not care that much right now but in a couple years?
When everyone on PS5 or XBSX are crowing about the new CoD in 4k and your 1080p set is looking tearfully at you like the unwanted burden it has become...
So why pander to that demographic? I think the S is a great idea, but the idea that all games must run on both consoles is stupid.For you, yes it would be better waiting. But for many people they play two games a year and don't care about 4k gaming.
I doubt it, next gen FIFA games were always supported by low-mid range PCs to some capacity. I imagine developers will find techniques to reduce performance for the S, it’s just one system to configure for after all.So does this mean that cross platform games like Fifa are going to be held back on PS5 as well to accommodate the limitations of the S?
You're way overestimating how much games are going to be 'held back'. For now, it's just a difference in resolution.So does this mean that cross platform games like Fifa are going to be held back on PS5 as well to accommodate the limitations of the S?
Me. I skipped the last gen due to price and the fact that I only plan a handful of games a year. At the cheaper price with something like gamepass, I can't justify buying the more expensive X/PS5.Wait then? It's a budget console and I get it, but how many of you lot area interested? I don't have a 4k TV but I know I'll be getting one in the near future and I'm one of the late ones....
Imagine having to upgrade again in a few years? Better off just getting the X imo...
The S has three times less graphical grunt than the SX. That’s a huge bottleneck.You're way overestimating how much games are going to be 'held back'. For now, it's just a difference in resolution.
4k is a HUGE resource hog. At 1080p the SS will be fine.The S has three times less graphical grunt than the SX. That’s a huge bottleneck.
A lot of developers seem to be disagreeing with this dude.4k is a HUGE resource hog. At 1080p the SS will be fine.