I have my doubts on Verrati...
PSG Need to Sell €60m of Players
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That's the key question. Presumably, seeing as this is done on their audited P&L, they don't need to have the actual cash, just the sale. It isn't a question of 'cash' is it, it's a question of operating loss?
Will they be able to buy Mbappe? I know he's on loan at the moment but could they have to pull out of the deal because of this?
If so I'd be giving Monaco money + Martial since he wants to leave for Mbappe.
To be honest, there's not many PSG players I'd want.
Muenier I did want but we've signed Dalot for RB.
Verratti I'm not overly sold on. Draxler is class but where would he even play for us?
Neymar would obviously be the dream but 0% chance of that happening.
If so I'd be giving Monaco money + Martial since he wants to leave for Mbappe.
To be honest, there's not many PSG players I'd want.
Muenier I did want but we've signed Dalot for RB.
Verratti I'm not overly sold on. Draxler is class but where would he even play for us?
Neymar would obviously be the dream but 0% chance of that happening.
I wonder if Draxler could play on the right
Why do they need to sell players? Good idea to post a link!
They're going to sell Krychowiak,Odsonne,Pastore and Trapp.
That's already 40M of players which is what they need.
That's already 40M of players which is what they need.
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If they only need to sell 60m worth, I can’t see them selling anyone better than say Pastore, Cavani, Rabiot, Meunier, maybe Lo Celso. In all likelyhood they’ll just flog a few fringe players for £15-20m each.
I believe ffp works by taking the average spent of 3 years. So this gives flexibilty and room to overspend one summer then underspend the next to make up for it. Thats the situation at PSG at the moment.
Yeah was going to say something similar, they have a decent sized squad where a few squad players will make up the €40 million easily.
No, he'd be very poor there. He can play either on the left cutting in or as a central attacking midfielder (a position he personally likes to play). He hasn't been given many chances as an AM and has played as a LW for most of his career but I think he can be very good centrally, he has good playmaking abilities but more importantly an eye for goal and can score 15+ goals if given the chance to play there.
Surely then if they go ahead with the mbappe signing they are absolutely screwed next year. Although I’d still expect them to cheat.
As far as I know this €60m has nothing to do with the Neymar/Mbappe window. This is going back further than that.
So I would imagine that they will eventually investigate it. However, they loan Mbappe to spread the fees over two summers. They probably need to sell another €50-60m each year for the next few years. Not sure how that affects them though. Surely they can't keep selling stars?
Also a joke that City were never investigated properly. Wasn't it something like a £50m fine for them (That didn't count towards the clubs expenses) that was more like bail because they got the £50m back? Worse punishment imaginable to give someone with endless money
So I would imagine that they will eventually investigate it. However, they loan Mbappe to spread the fees over two summers. They probably need to sell another €50-60m each year for the next few years. Not sure how that affects them though. Surely they can't keep selling stars?
Also a joke that City were never investigated properly. Wasn't it something like a £50m fine for them (That didn't count towards the clubs expenses) that was more like bail because they got the £50m back? Worse punishment imaginable to give someone with endless money
Good chance for us to get bargains: They are forced to sell players, I'm sure most of the clubs will be smart enough to make low offers.
I'd have like Meunier but we've bought Dalot. Mbappe would be a dream but every team would be in for him. Veratti I'm not too sure about.
I'd take draxler or pastore thanks.
Edit: or marqinos
Edit: or marqinos
There will be no firesale, €40m are easy to find. The smart thing would be to get a fair deal for a good player in a position you need quickly, which isn't that easy nowadays. The vultures hoping to get a bargain with miserable offers will end up with nothing.
I know it isn't feasible, but what would happen if no one wanted to buy? Paltry fine?
People would have torn their dicks off to get Veratti a year ago. What's happened?
Of course they are. UEFA are looking at the books for the 15/16-17/18 three years frame. Neymar and Mbappé were done in 17/18 and went into the books for the year. It's why they currently need €60m profits to close the 17/18 books without failing FFP controls.
To be precise Neymar and Mbappé weren't included in the 2015, 2016 and 2017 exercises that were just cleared, their wages and transfer amortization start in 2017/2018, that's why €40m are still needed despite already selling Matuidi, Augustin, Aurier and Lucas.
Probably harsher than the first time. I don't think it's in UEFA interest to exclude PSG from CL (although wouldn't be that crazy if the whole €40m are still missing) but I'd expect heavy fine + transfer limitation + monitoring of accounts + limitation of CL squad + point deduction in CL group stage for a few years.
That makes no sense. UEFA are monitoring the last 3 seasons. Including the one that just ended. So there's no way the Neymar and Mbappé deals haven't figured into the accounts they looked at for FFP
I guess a visit to the local confessional will do then.Meanwhile:
That would make it only €30m to go.Tweet
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I think selling clubs preferes deffered payment as well due to tax cycle and all that.
Club record of £9 million ? I can't remember the last time we payed so little (i know) for a player.
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That would make it only €30m to go.Tweet
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Maybe they are looking at fiscal years? For most football clubs they go from July to June and since Neymar's transfer was finalized in August he'd be part of the current fiscal year which only ends in two weeks.
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Woody will finally get his man (Cavani) for £120m.
Ethically, that would happen. But imagine next: everyone knows that if PSG doesn't sell, they are in really deep trouble. Now, ignore that this is a football club and imagine it as an enterprise/company (which actually is):
Why would the market buy it on a price tag for actives that have no other choice than to be sold? Why would a company be stupid enough to do that?
PSG have about €400m of assets between the 15 players they're willing to let go and only €40m to recoup. There's 15/20 clubs able to buy one of the €40m+ players and about 50 able to buy a €20m one, that's potentially dozens of offers and only the most interesting will be accepted. You're unlikely to get anything with insutingly low offers and the main thing you will achieve is degrading the club relationship with PSG, just what happened between MUFC and Inter last summer for Perisic.
I agree that the clubs most directly in competition or even at war with PSG right now have little incentive to bail out PSG early for example by buying Di Maria for €40m.
they've been cleared of any wrong doing so presume we won't be getting anyone from them
IMHO, no one will hostilize PSG simply because they are the best buyers on the transfer market, and no club wishes to antagonize them. Except Real Madrid, they don't care who they antagonize, even their own federation
PSG's financial year has not closed yet. Think it closes in August if I recall correctly. Which means the last set of published audited results they have are are 16-17.
It closes this month and they already provided this year's records in may, they have to provide an updated version by June 30.
My dream is that @GlastonSpur and @InLevyITrust will save us once again.
After Lucas Moura and Serge Aurier, we have fantastic players to sell:
- Krychowiak the Polish Rjkaard
- Kurzawa the French Fachetti
- Osdonne Edouard the new Eusebio
- ...
Let's continue our win-win partnership.
For more information, please contact us at www.psg.fr
After Lucas Moura and Serge Aurier, we have fantastic players to sell:
- Krychowiak the Polish Rjkaard
- Kurzawa the French Fachetti
- Osdonne Edouard the new Eusebio
- ...
Let's continue our win-win partnership.
For more information, please contact us at www.psg.fr
Thanks. So the first Neymar amortization should then be included in that set of results? Mbappe shouldn't be other than his wages
Brash Real Madrid pursuits of PSG players are conspicuous by their absence also.IMHO, no one will hostilize PSG simply because they are the best buyers on the transfer market, and no club wishes to antagonize them. Except Real Madrid, they don't care who they antagonize, even their own federation
However disagree about clubs being scared to fleece PSG, PSG got annoyed with Barcelona pulling dirty tricks to take Verratti but if it's a player PSG want to sell and the buying club does things through the proper channels then it's more likely PSG will roll out the red carpet with an upside down hat on the end. Plus PSG seem similar to elite English clubs in that they're appalling at selling; Matudi and Moura for under £40m combined etc
The actual financial period is for the DNCG, FFP has its own process. In theory, PSG should have included Neymar in their final records for 2017-2018 which they provided in April. Mbappé should be recorded in 2019. Now like Giorno said FFP records are on three years so 2015-2016, 2016-2017 and 2017-2018.