I'm Muslim - so we have our share of 'strange' practices, but why would the parents not identify the rabbis? The numbers aren't huge, but still these guys are a health risk!
Rabbis give herpes to babies
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I'm Muslim - so we have our share of 'strange' practices, but why would the parents not identify the rabbis? The numbers aren't huge, but still these guys are a health risk!
Erm, not one to usually delve into the debate about non Christian religions and their practices because I know less then nothing, but this sounds totally sick. So basically they circumcise the baby (why in the first place) and then they suck the babies penis to remove the blood?????? Surely this has to break all sorts of laws?????
Yeah, ok, religious freedom and all that but there comes a point when because my imaginary friend told me to is not an acceptable defence.
Madness. Absolute madness. The ultra-orthodox are a closed community and rarely report incidents like the above or crimes, including child abuse, to the authorities.
Phew, thank God that it wasn't just me that thought this was fecking insane. Surely this couldn't be very common.
I am shocked, that must be classed as sexual abuse.
Also, there must be a case for some level of unlawful death case to be brought too. 13 kids since 2000 so that's one a year dying at the hands of these weirdo's.
I was going to say this "traditional" circumcision practice couldn't be popular among modern Jews, but then I think the whole circumcision business is barbaric while the vast majority of all Jews circumcise their 8-day old boys.
I would still guess this suction business is limited to ultra-orthodox communities. Many of the people I know had their kids circumcised by surgeons.
True, but then the entire circumcision practice could be classed as maiming.
Would the anti-circumcision view be widely held? Also, what's the deal from a religious standpoint if you choose not to circumcise a child. Can they be accepted into the church? E.g. is it a prerequisite of being a Jew as I always assumed it was.
Yes it could but, there are medical reasons why this should be done in some cases, just doing it for religious reason is not right.
Sucking a babies penis for religious reason is just wrong, very wrong.
Sucky a babies penis is required as part of the ritual. That just sounds messed up. Take the religious side out of it and they would be going to jail for that. Really there is respecting people's beliefs and then letting them get away with things society all agree shouldn't happen, just because an old book or history says it is ok. This sort of thing should be cut out.
Just when you think you have heard it all in regards to human strangeness.
This has to be right up there.
What on earth is the religious significance of this?
I am not even going to contemplate googling that!
This has to be right up there.
What on earth is the religious significance of this?
I am not even going to contemplate googling that!
I hate religion. I really do.
It's not sexual abuse because there's nothing sexual about it... it's just "abuse".
Anti-circumcision sentiments are growing (no pun intended), but still most people follow the tradition. We chose not to circumcise our kids and they shouldn't have any issues from a religious standpoint. There is no record of those who did or didn't follow the practice.
There is never a medical need to circumcise a kid at the age of 8 days. Such a need may arise later, and obviously should ne addressed by professional health experts rather than the religious administration.
That's not true, though. It's sucking the blood, hence the straw/pipette alternative. It's sick enough without letting one's imagination go to overdrive.
That's exactly what the old book says.
What the hell is all that about??
My goodness. I thought I'd heard everything !
My goodness. I thought I'd heard everything !
Sometimes doing things for tradition's sake just isn't enough of an excuse anymore. I think this practice of penis sucking is one of them, considering the much safer alternative circumcision practices that are available!
Yes sorry, that was the point I was try to make , badly.
I agree a new baby does not need the op.
Pffft catholic priests have been giving us STD's for decades, never did us any harm.
Ssshh pops. We were almost at the end of a page involving sexual abuse and religious practitioners without mentioning priests.
Would have been a new record.
Would have been a new record.
Wait...what?!
Arent there female rabbis these days?
So lets hold our horses, if there was some attractive ones I might convert.
So lets hold our horses, if there was some attractive ones I might convert.
Desperate times and all, eh?
I can actually understand where the practise comes from, isn't spit sterile? Isn't that why dogs and stuff lick their wounds to clean them..... presumably this started thousands of years ago when access to clean water would have been limited so sucking it was probably the easiest way to make sure it was clean.
As for still doing that today.... well, yeah...... thats a bit dodgey alright.
As for still doing that today.... well, yeah...... thats a bit dodgey alright.
Someone showed me a video of the actual practice the other day. Horrific.
Wat?
Saliva isn't sterile, the oral cavity is filled with micro-organisms, it's a great environment for them. Saliva helps balance it with some anti-microbial agents, that act upon some types of bacteria, but nowhere near enough to make it a sterile thing. Anyway herpes is a virus, and a very resistant one.
Dogs lick their wounds mainly because their saliva has substances that promote faster regeneration and scaring, on top of the "cleaning".
Seriously thought that said rabbits for a sec
So 8 days old and the poor little tots have been maimed, molested and given an STD.
Me too. I used to love my rabbit, it was a great companion. Unlike a rabbi, I suspect.
Wait they're giving the rabbits herpes?
Ok well that's just going too far.
Ok well that's just going too far.
fecking lunatics.
Looking at the stats in the OP I still reckon you took a greater risk with the BJ though.
I thought the rabbits gave the rabbis rabies, or was it the babies?
I guess things can only get better from that point on.