It clearly is an option, other than the last 15 min, the players were already on the beach. They genuinely couldn't be bothered to put the effort in.
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This is the biggest myth on the caf. Good players stand put even in bad teams.
We can chalk up Bournemouth as a loss. Win the 3 home games or it's Europa again.
We don’t deserve it
The fans on here assured us we could just simultaneously reach the league cup final, FA cup final, Europa final, and finish top 4 without a problem. "Only losers prioritise competitions", and yet all that work we put in for Europa was for nothing as we were too fatigured to even beat the 11th best La Liga side.
Should have sacked off the Europa and focused on top 4 and domestic cup double.
Yeah but that was the case 7-8 years ago, too. That's sort of what I'm saying: we have had plenty of awful teams over the last decade and I agree that the current one is pretty shite, too, so we should all know the signs of having a shit team. The signs are those that you've just listed. The single digit goal difference is a very obvious symptom, too.
We look completely mentally spent. Liverpool are racking up the 1-0 wins while we do the opposite.
Only thing in our favour is we end with 3/4 home games, although are right back in the zone of not being confident in any match we play.
Will be a massive unforgivable failure if we cock this up now.
Only thing in our favour is we end with 3/4 home games, although are right back in the zone of not being confident in any match we play.
Will be a massive unforgivable failure if we cock this up now.
You're actually doing these players a favour to say they weren't trying.
They're just really, really shite at basic aspects of football, like ball retention. Our goal difference is +8 for feck sake. Our goal difference over the course of the season isn't +8 because the players don't try, it's because we're not very good at football.
October 28th was the last time we had a week inbetween games. 41 games ago
I think we’ll still get top 4 but I also thought we’d beat West Ham so what the f*ck do I know.
I was expecting it to go to the last game but that we’d just cling on to 4th, I can’t see us winning 3 games now, if Liverpool win all their games they’ll overtake us.
One of those games is Chelsea. I don't think we can win that one as they are usually good against us. We have to rely on Newcastle dropping points. Liverpool are like an unstoppable train at the moment. I don't expect them to drop any points.
CL might be embarrassing you know. Nothing quite says "we're back" than getting hammered 6 times in front of Europe's elite.
Chelsea is one of them. Have won their first game and can carry on from there. No way is it a guaranteed win for United. We are out of top 4.
I thought it was in the bag. I thought even this bunch of serial bottlers couldn't muck it up. I underestimated just what a pathetic bunch of players we have amassed at United over the years. Rangnick was right in his assessment no matter how crap he was
Loving the jinx attempt here. No go. The Sage Our Lord in Heaven Juergen Klopp has spoken. As He says (and He is always right) top 4 is gone. United will cruise it. I’m expecting a straight 9 points point your next 3 games and bish bash bosh it’s done.
I'm not convinced we’ll win any of the remaining games, let alone the three out of four needed.
For me it's not that much about wanting to be in Champions League as much as not wanting us to play in Europa again. Can we gift someone else EL place if we finish 5th? Tired of it. Won it in 2017, lost couple of semis and a final, it's become pointless. I know iwinning it gets you place in CL but still tired of it.
Remember a couple of months back when we won that shitty tin pot cup and we had "such a likeable team". Haha.
Wow. I hear commentators say that if you want to win trophies, you must play all these games (most in top 4 divisions). I get that, but the world cup has meant not only did our players play for the national teams, but they also had to play the most games for their club in a shorter time frame. We also have a team that has poor quality subs, so rotation is a no-go.
If we miss top 4, I honestly think it is down to this. People don't understand the mental and physical fatigue. Hopefully, the week until Wolves can allow a refresh.
I can't watch another season of EL, I barely watched it this season until we played Barcelona, and I thought we should have surrendered that comp way before then anyway. It's not even the CL I'm bothered about, it's the league. It's our bread a butter and we're floundering every year, it's hard to build on anything when your platform is bottling 4th place to a team that couldn't buy a win at the beginning of the season.
We will if we have more points than the 5th placed team
The Europa League loss had nothing to do with fatigue its was due to the fact that in the 2nd leg Erik sent out a team that was completely unmotivated and nowhere near ready for the game so that loss is on him.
The way we are playing we might as well kiss top 4 goodbye, 1 goal in 3 games or 270+ minutes of football is a disgrace considering the attackers we have had on the pitch.
Tonight our attacking play was a joke and I lost count of how many times our players opted to make a stupid and unneccessary pass to a player with a defender right on him rather than keeping the ball and looking for a better option.
Not including the World Cup and internationals, this is pretty much the first time we have a full week till the next game since September. There has to be some positives from that.
We have played the most games in the top 5 leagues in Europe, this fall off was inevitable but let’s be real if offered this position at the start of the season we’d all take it.
We have played the most games in the top 5 leagues in Europe, this fall off was inevitable but let’s be real if offered this position at the start of the season we’d all take it.
Said this weeks ago and people didn't like hearing it. It's the truth though, because here we are, fighting for 4th place when it never should have been this way.
Nothing if you thought we would beat West Ham. Everyone knew what performance we would put out. Been the same story since Last week of FEB.
We can still lose a game and it remains in our hands.
But we won't have more points than 5th. I hope we do, but i do not believe this team has the balls to get the job done.
While you probably are being sarcastic, this is exactly what the united players must be thinking and must actually be the reason why we cannot win a match with such low mentality.
Eventually we'll run out of these 'can afford to lose' games.
Starting to get seriously worried.
I think we'll have the exact same number of points, goals scored, goals conceded, wins, draws, and losses as the 5th placed team.
Fun fact (or not). I create this thread every year. Last year it had 7 pages. Top4 was done and dusted in january
"Liverpool can't win all games" is running 6 games now.
GoodWe play four teams with literally nothing to play for. Bournemouth are pretty much safe. Liverpool play away to a battling Leicester, we could be in the clear after next weekend.
We are in the shits.
Leicester with their defence? My faith is in Villa
Odd how people wrote off a team that's been so good for years now (even with the way they've played this season) and always had really good schedule from April until the end of the season, with no CL or cup games left. And they've already got into top 4 only 2 years ago gaining momentum over last 8-10 games or so."Liverpool can't win all games" is running 6 games now.
West Ham loss imo makes 3rd place finish highly unlikely and top 4 in serious doubt.
2 draws and we're f**ked. Simple as that.