Lose to Newcastle and we're fecked
Race for top 4 | Finito.
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It going to be a mad April. Virtually every team in the PL has something to play for bar Villa. No easy fixtures with teams dreaming of the beach till May IMO.Everyone really thinks all these teams below us are going to win every game
Yep win next two and they go ahead on GD
People try to downplay the worry of other teams catching up, and mention how other teams will drop points.
However, you need to understand we are still in three competitions and without our best player for four games (three in the PL). We only need to lose two to swing this to us being out of top 4.
We have also been playing sub-par football for a while now because the team is really tired. The international break will not help as most of the team will be playing for their national teams.
Yes, we have a advantage in points, but the teams chasing us have an advantage of less games, fresh legs and lack of absences to their key men.
This isn’t the time to be dismissive.
We also have the worst GD in the top 6. This doesn’t give much confidence.
We just need to be laser focused.
However, you need to understand we are still in three competitions and without our best player for four games (three in the PL). We only need to lose two to swing this to us being out of top 4.
We have also been playing sub-par football for a while now because the team is really tired. The international break will not help as most of the team will be playing for their national teams.
Yes, we have a advantage in points, but the teams chasing us have an advantage of less games, fresh legs and lack of absences to their key men.
This isn’t the time to be dismissive.
We also have the worst GD in the top 6. This doesn’t give much confidence.
We just need to be laser focused.
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Yeah not ideal to head into break from Premier League for 3 weeks with 0-0 draw
A draw with ten men for over an hour - good point.
You’re consistent at least.
We’ve been dragged back into this race annoyingly.
3 wins from 8 league games and in the same time Spurs who are apparently the worse team in the world have managed 5 wins in that period.
They rarely miss a trick when it comes to beating the shit, especially at home. Meanwhile we’ve failed to beat the bottom two at home in recent weeks.
Spurs I would say have the best fixtures on paper. Liverpool the hardest.
I think that 7-0 win might have got them thinking they’re far better than they are and that Bournemouth result makes it hard work for them from here.
Hopefully Chelsea and City finish them off after the international break.
Ours is slightly harder than Newcastle with us still needing to go to Newcastle, Spurs and Brighton.
Still think we’ll have enough but if we lose to either Newcastle or Brentford in the double, then we’ll be in some bother.
Us and Spurs favs just at this minute…
3 wins from 8 league games and in the same time Spurs who are apparently the worse team in the world have managed 5 wins in that period.
They rarely miss a trick when it comes to beating the shit, especially at home. Meanwhile we’ve failed to beat the bottom two at home in recent weeks.
Spurs I would say have the best fixtures on paper. Liverpool the hardest.
I think that 7-0 win might have got them thinking they’re far better than they are and that Bournemouth result makes it hard work for them from here.
Hopefully Chelsea and City finish them off after the international break.
Ours is slightly harder than Newcastle with us still needing to go to Newcastle, Spurs and Brighton.
Still think we’ll have enough but if we lose to either Newcastle or Brentford in the double, then we’ll be in some bother.
Us and Spurs favs just at this minute…
The only team I really fear to suddenly have a winning streak is Liverpool, and that is mostly because I can’t really convince my self that they are as bad as their results this season suggests. I do however think that after the next 3 games we will be minimum 10 points clear of them with 9 games to go, and that should be enough.
I know that Spurs, Newcastle and Brighton are closer, but none of them are consistent enough to put a run together.
I think we all are a little bit afraid of being too optimistic after what we have had to put up with since SAF retired, but what I have seen this season is significantly better than anything post SAF, and the fact that we can play as well as we do, with a Sancho out of form, a Martial constantly injured, Eriksen out, Antony not exactly over performing, and a Weghorst among the starting eleven, tells me that ETH have them working well as a team, and they are willing to fight when necessary and that I think will be enough to carry us through.
I know that Spurs, Newcastle and Brighton are closer, but none of them are consistent enough to put a run together.
I think we all are a little bit afraid of being too optimistic after what we have had to put up with since SAF retired, but what I have seen this season is significantly better than anything post SAF, and the fact that we can play as well as we do, with a Sancho out of form, a Martial constantly injured, Eriksen out, Antony not exactly over performing, and a Weghorst among the starting eleven, tells me that ETH have them working well as a team, and they are willing to fight when necessary and that I think will be enough to carry us through.
I think we will lose to Newcastle which will cause a serious amount of hysteria in this very thread, but then win a few on the bounce after that and be comfortably third going into the run in.
We are barely scoring goals as it is. There's 5 team with more goals scored in the league - we have a similar amount as Brentford.
Rashford's form is looking to be on a downward spiral, Weighorst can't score to save his life... Who's left?
We can very easily feck up this top 4 run. If Newcastle win there's only 2 points separating us.
Whether its a "good point" or a bad point, its still just one point and it came in what is on paper our easiest game left this season and draws Newcastle and Tottenham two points closer when we still have to go and play them both on their grounds.
Just an incredibly negative way of looking at it. Crack on.
William Hill Odds to finish in top 4.
Man utd 1/10
Spurs 6/4
Newcastle 7/4
Liverpool 7/4
Brighton 6/1
Chelsea 33/1.
Surprisingly we are very short odds to make it.
https://sports.williamhill.com/bett...ier-League/outrights/OB_MG414592/Top-4-Finish
Man utd 1/10
Spurs 6/4
Newcastle 7/4
Liverpool 7/4
Brighton 6/1
Chelsea 33/1.
Surprisingly we are very short odds to make it.
https://sports.williamhill.com/bett...ier-League/outrights/OB_MG414592/Top-4-Finish
What are we supposed to do exactly when the game got ruined almost at the very beginning?
Top four is comfortably in the bag.
Look at the remaining fixtures. Spurs have still got to play Liverpool and Newcastle so they will take plenty of points off each other.
It will be United 3rd Newcastle 4th Spurs 5th and Liverpool 6th.
Look at the remaining fixtures. Spurs have still got to play Liverpool and Newcastle so they will take plenty of points off each other.
It will be United 3rd Newcastle 4th Spurs 5th and Liverpool 6th.
I will take the point,however wish we coped with ten men better. Different circumstances to Palace one as were leading and could bring Sabitzer on
Agreed. Some days stuff goes wrong. It could easily have got worse with Ward Prowse channelling his inner Beckham today.
But when you bring a young winger on and he has to go off with a knock not too long after, you can tell it's not your day.
It's certainly not comfortable, but it's without any doubt in our hands to come 3rd from here.
Honestly I would take point at Newcastle in 3 weeks just to keep hold of lead for now
It really isn’t that surprising. Only bedwetters are panicking about this right now.
Brighton look value at 6/1 with their games in hand. Chelsea should be more like 66/1 rather than 33/1.
It's well in our hands at the moment.
If we drop a few more points though, and then late April face Tottenham A, Chelsea H back to back, needing say 4-6 points it could get real very quickly.
Why do those that think we're already guaranteed top 4 even bother posting in this thread? Should be at the bookies putting their house on it instead.
No-one is saying it's guaranteed 'literally'. And you know that.
Chelsea will be pushed back to May IF we get through next Sunday,Fulham certainly won't be as poor as today that's for sure
Trying to spread some decent mentality into fans who are scared of Spurs and Newcastle.
Will feel very different IF we can get out of St James's with draw,then need to beat Brentford and Everton at home
That's good, split those 2 games up a bit.
But yes, we'll have to be a lot better at the weekend. Ten Hag will have to get his line-up right on Thursday. It'd be unthinkable not to at least start Maguire & Lindelof.
If he doesn't trust them for a fixture 3 goals up, it really will speak volumes.
Said in the post match thread other night that IF we had won 6-1 he would make more changes
There were definitely more goals there. But never mind, it's where it is, and at 1-1 we'd all have been delighted at the outcome.
Sabitzer could do with being fit to make up for Casemiro's upcoming absence in the league.
We cannot risk a Bruno and one of McFred double up!
We are still in a very good position and our 3 pursuers are definitely going to drop points somewhere but those games against Leeds without Casemiro were so rough. Newcastle, Brentford and Everton are going to be tough to beat with a McFred double pivot..
I don't think I've ever looked forward to a transfer window as much as this summer.
I don't think I've ever looked forward to a transfer window as much as this summer.
Ooh stuff just got real didn’t it? I was too focused on dreaming of catching the leaders and suddenly we’re in a race for top 4, which was looking fairly comfortable. Newcastle and Spurs have made up good ground. Bit squeaky bum now, especially without Case for the next 4
Matches played in all competitions so far this season
Man United 44
Tottenham 39
Newcastle 33
Liverpool 38
Liverpool,Tottenham,Newcastle out of the cup competitions and can have full focus on top 4. Man United still involved in the FA cup and Europa League.
Man United 44
Tottenham 39
Newcastle 33
Liverpool 38
Liverpool,Tottenham,Newcastle out of the cup competitions and can have full focus on top 4. Man United still involved in the FA cup and Europa League.
I know posters have already reassured me that top 4 is done and dusted and you get mocked as a bet wetter for questioning it but I still don’t think it’s cut and dried already. We’ve got more games than anyone else, injuries racking up, suspensions, lack of goals, just 12 points from our last 8 matches from what I can see.
it’s going to be a tough end to the season, hope we’ve got it in us to get back on a run and bag some early points before may.
it’s going to be a tough end to the season, hope we’ve got it in us to get back on a run and bag some early points before may.
In the last 6 games how many points have Spurs and Newcastle gained on us? They haven’t gained ground in any way. Spurs have by 1 point.
I’m not sure that form guide supports your point in any way really. We’ve been pretty poor in the last 8 as that shows and yet we’ve only lost out to Spurs by 3 points? Hardly anything to be scared of.
Did Spurs get extra points for losing this season? I know they won yesterday but they seem to have moved up the table the past few weeks despite mostly losing