The point is really very simple: you don't get to chose how other people should feel.
I lived in Japan for several years and speak the language reasonably well. Surely they called you "gaijin" or "gaikokujin" mate?
I would attempt to describe the others first, focusing on descriptors like attire, hair color, positive height (tall, not short). Then gender. Wouldn’t state race unless absolutely necessary, then only to the boss & no one else. Wouldn’t let someone overhear.
Complete sarcasm on my part. Completely aware you agree with me.
What's wrong with calling a black person , black? Just tell me? They have fought for it long enough and now YOU say they cant be called it? I find this a very odd discussion. Basically if there was one black person in a crowd of 6, you cant refer to their skin colour?You seem to want to make it more of an issue than it is, like a game of Guess Who.
Thank you
feck, I completely forgot the simplest descriptor.
I will never be so arrogant to presume to tell a black person they shouldn't be offended when someone categorizes primarily by the colour of their skin. I haven't lived that life, I cannot possibly understand how they would feel.
Sorry, different decorum from a social setting v. a professional setting. Do you not see a need for such?
"Almost any" football fan, are you kidding me? I myself didn't know Pierre Webo. I guarantee you most wouldn't.
That’s why such language can’t be used in professional settings.
True.
I mean, instantly recognizing Van der Meyde these days would impress me.Yes, I am making somewhat of a generalization regarding decorum in professional settings, but there are vastly more multicultural, international professional settings that demand such professionalism than don’t. You get down to specific cultures, that’s not what we are talking about. This is an international, multicultural professional setting, there is protocol for management to adhere to.
I agree with you. It‘s totally irrelevant whether you feel offended by it or not. So why do you bring it up?
Oh behave man. If you don’t know the player (which tbf in a UCL match is unforgivable) skin colour is a fair adjective if he meant it as a descriptor. Come on ffs there are better hills to die in than this.
Sure he should be more careful but also please dont use the word "wider world". Its mainly an issue in the anglosphere and some western european countries. So unless the UK can set the standard for what is the standard in the wider world but poland or japan cannot we just cannot agree on how this training should be like and its dangerously close to enforcing one culture or one standard on others.
I assume you are German. Bein played for Frankfurt right?Are they all naked? Aren‘t there other ways to segregate them?
Use their names, ffs. Use eye contact, point with the hand if you need, too. So, many possibilities
And if roles are reversed and you are asking a colleague which one is Jamie? They say (entirely sensibly I suggest) that Jamie is the lady or the white guy? You sack them or suspend them for a very long time or do you say thanks and go and speak to Jamie?
No-one has said its anything to be ashamed of. Being fat isn't something to be ashamed of, but you wouldn't want to be called 'fat' as a primary description. Losing a leg isn't anything to be ashamed of, but being identified as the 'one legged guy' probably wouldn't be nice. Being old isn't something to be ashamed of but it wouldn't be nice to be referred to as 'the old one'. Being short isn't something to be ashamed of, but being referred to as 'the short one' probably wouldn't be ideal. Having a burnt face isn't something to be ashamed of but being referred to as 'the one with the burnt face' would be abhorrent.
