Rafa Benitez | Sacked (Fachts)

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Why in the name of feck would he leave a strong national side in a World Cup year to rock up at 16th place Everton in January?

I can't even imagine a reason why you'd consider that for a second... unless the Everton board are absolutely mental and would triple his pay or something.
He's on 1 million a year at Belgium. Benitez was on 6 mill a year at Everton. You can see how such a large salary would be attractive for anyone!
 

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It was a sabotage job and he shouldn't be given another job in Europe's top leagues.

The board were even worse for going along with it.

Just a disgrace, we've seen the likes of Mark Hughes set aside previous affiliations and do an OK job at the likes of city. What Benitez did was completely unprofessional.
 

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The difference with everything at the club since he left is quite remarkable. The cohesion between staff, players and fans is at a level I can't remember seeing for a long time. We look far more solid under a tactically naive manager than a manager heralded as a defensive tactical genius.
 

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Reading his name it reminds me of the time when I was a gullible non registered reader of Caf. One of the first things I learned here was the term Fat Spanish Waiter. And because of that there was a period when I thought NSFW means Not Fat Spanish Waiter. I didnt know what it really means until I browsed an adult website and it says NSFW. It didnt make sense but true story.
 

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The difference with everything at the club since he left is quite remarkable. The cohesion between staff, players and fans is at a level I can't remember seeing for a long time. We look far more solid under a tactically naive manager than a manager heralded as a defensive tactical genius.
That's because one of the things Lampard is great at is embracing the club he's at. Derby fans talk shit about him now because he chipped after one season but they were head over heels in love with him at the time and the buzz he was cultivating there. I'm seeing the same with Everton fans now. He's embraced the culture of the club and he gets it and the fans can see that, the players and staff love it and Everton look like a very happy place right now.
 

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That's because one of the things Lampard is great at is embracing the club he's at. Derby fans talk shit about him now because he chipped after one season but they were head over heels in love with him at the time and the buzz he was cultivating there. I'm seeing the same with Everton fans now. He's embraced the culture of the club and he gets it and the fans can see that, the players and staff love it and Everton look like a very happy place right now.
I think it's also because he's actually a decent manager. He might not be the best at certain bits of management but he clearly is intelligent enough to appoint people who are good at them. Signing people like Coady and Tarkowski was so astute and has transformed our defence and thus the team overall. He definitely does embrace Everton and 'gets' it.
 

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I think it's also because he's actually a decent manager. He might not be the best at certain bits of management but he clearly is intelligent enough to appoint people who are good at them. Signing people like Coady and Tarkowski was so astute and has transformed our defence and thus the team overall. He definitely does embrace Everton and 'gets' it.
There's that too. People really talked about him like he was joke of a manager purely based on the last 6 months or so at Chelsea. He proved at Derby and the first 12 months at Chelsea that he was at the very least a pretty decent manager who perhaps got slightly overrated after he guided Chelsea to 4th under a transfer ban and losing Hazard. I listened to an interview recently where he talked about his experiences at Derby and Chelsea, and I remember thinking 'lucky Everton' because he genuinely sounds like a guy who has learnt from his mistakes and has wised up in away.
 

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Benitez shouldn't rush too much through statements like this now that he's in the Obvious Spoofer stage of his career. He's got a good decade of national sides with more money than sense ahead of him on the Sven-Goran Eriksson Path, he should pace himself.
 

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Reading his name it reminds me of the time when I was a gullible non registered reader of Caf. One of the first things I learned here was the term Fat Spanish Waiter. And because of that there was a period when I thought NSFW means Not Fat Spanish Waiter. I didnt know what it really means until I browsed an adult website and it says NSFW. It didnt make sense but true story.
what in the..:lol: :lol: :lol:
 

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Benitez shouldn't rush too much through statements like this now that he's in the Obvious Spoofer stage of his career. He's got a good decade of national sides with more money than sense ahead of him on the Sven-Goran Eriksson Path, he should pace himself.
Rafa will never have the Sven charisma to keep getting those incredible gigs
 

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I actually forgot he managed Everton. In my head he left Newcastle then disappeared into la liga obscurity
 

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He did it at Valencia despite being a Madrid player, and then went on to do it at Madrid despite managing Valencia previously. He's just full of shit and an idiot.
 

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I think its the strangest managerial appointment in Prem history. Such odd decision making from both club and manager.
 

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what in the..:lol: :lol: :lol:
I imagine him clicking NSFW links at work, happily concluding that yes - indeed - the content did not include any fat Spanish waiters.

Until the day he discovered the world of fat Spanish waiter porn (I'm sure that's a thing) - and...
 

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Celta Vigo have sacked manager Rafael Benitez after less than nine months.

Former Liverpool and Chelsea boss Benitez, 63, joined the La Liga side on 23 June last year and departs after winning just five of his 28 league matches in charge of Celta.

He leaves the club 17th in the Spanish top flight, sitting outside of the relegation zone by just two points.

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He needs to give up on football management and go back to waitering.
 

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Forget declined, he was always shit.

Probably the most overrated manager in my life time I think
He's a joke now obviously, but I don't think you win La Liga with Valencia twice if you're a shit manager.
 

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Forget declined, he was always shit.

Probably the most overrated manager in my life time I think
Early career was phenomenal but by all accounts incredibly monotonous and quite dull to work under as a player. When he started out I feel like players tended to graft a lot more and obviously salaries were way lower whereas now I bet he has difficulties keeping younger guys bought into repeating drill after drill and being so structured. Same thing happened to a lot of the more defensively minded coaches over the last 10 years.
 

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Forget declined, he was always shit.

Probably the most overrated manager in my life time I think
You don’t know what you’re talking about, sorry. After doing well above expectations with Tenerife, he had Valencia play fabulous and exciting football at the start of the millenium, winning the league for the first time in over thirty years - and twice - breaking up the double dynasty of RM/Barca, and this was in the period when the Spanish league first overtook Italian Serie A and was way beyond PL in depth of quality. He also took Valencia to the CL final. He was one of the best coaches around at the time, and extremely far from ‘always shit’.

He took over Liverpool, which were in their toxicity, entitlement and skewed expectation phase like we are now, but he lifted them clearly from the previous coaches and won the CL with them at a time when nothing looked like that should be happening.

No managers almost are brilliant for more than five to ten years or at different clubs, the exceptions are rare heroes indeed, but Benitez was brilliant for about a decade. The ‘fachts’ interview blinded many United fans of posteriority for what he was about, but that’s really just kid’s stuff. Rapha Benitez was not in any manner or way ‘always shit’.
 

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You don’t know what you’re talking about, sorry. After doing well above expectations with Tenerife, he had Valencia play fabulous and exciting football at the start of the millenium, winning the league for the first time in over thirty years - and twice - breaking up the double dynasty of RM/Barca, and this was in the period when the Spanish league first overtook Italian Serie A and was way beyond PL in depth of quality. He also took Valencia to the CL final. He was one of the best coaches around at the time, and extremely far from ‘always shit’.

He took over Liverpool, which were in their toxicity, entitlement and skewed expectation phase like we are now, but he lifted them clearly from the previous coaches and won the CL with them at a time when nothing looked like that should be happening.

No managers almost are brilliant for more than five to ten years or at different clubs, the exceptions are rare heroes indeed, but Benitez was brilliant for about a decade. The ‘fachts’ interview blinded many United fans of posteriority for what he was about, but that’s really just kid’s stuff. Rapha Benitez was not in any manner or way ‘always shit’.
It was Hector Cuper who led Valencia to two CL finals but lost both of them.. Benitez won Uefa Cup in 2004 before joining Liverpool..
 

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When he started out I feel like players tended to graft a lot more and obviously salaries were way lower whereas now I bet he has difficulties keeping younger guys bought into repeating drill after drill and being so structured
I wonder. If anything today's play feels even more regimented and structured with the pressing systems. You look at the movements the collective makes when the opposition has the ball and it's so .. robotic. They keep making the same movements over and over and over again for the full 90. If you don't make the movement the video analyst will point out exactly where you didn't and the boss will come yell at you.

I think he's more the old school 90s / 00s coach and hasn't evolved after the Barca / Guardiola tactical revolution. Simeone did and so did Ancelotti. Maybe even Emery.
 

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I wonder. If anything today's play feels even more regimented and structured with the pressing systems. You look at the movements the collective makes when the opposition has the ball and it's so .. robotic. They keep making the same movements over and over and over again for the full 90. If you don't make the movement the video analyst will point out exactly where you didn't and the boss will come yell at you.
Yeah, as far as the decline of managers like Benitez and Mourinho, I think it's more that structured/regimented attacking caught up to and overtook structured/regimented defending.

It's a bit shit really. :(
 

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I really hoped they would offer him the Ireland job at some point if he was available. He’d automatically be the second best manager in our history. All our managers are championship standard Charlton aside. Benitez has competed at the highest levels and his players seem to like him. He might not play the best football these days but it might be wise to pick a pragmatic coach while a few more better players are hopefully coming through. One thing is for sure we aren’t winning anything until we produce players competing at the highest level and that isn’t happening nearly enough.