Rafael da Silva: Van Gaal called me and said "You can leave. The meeting lasted 1 minute"
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Totally agree with you! Rafa was a good player...LVG just an arrogant twat!
Always liked Rafa he was a good player for us and loved playing for United. He deserved better than being treated like crap by LvG in his last season here.
He was definitely inconsistent at times under Ferguson but given his age back then thats to be expected, he was what 21-22 when Fergie retired. In Fergusons final season he was largely injury free, and he was becoming very consistent in terms of performance. If Ferguson had stayed on would his career have panned out differently maybe, most likely the injuries would have came back and hindered him again.
But when he was at his best in my opinion he was the best Right Back United's had since Neville. As you say he really was a proper Manchester United player.
Only lasted 1 minute. Not horny enough I guess
Oh right, so it was LvG's fault was it ? Not that he was found out.
The fact is the lad came into the game late, realised he had an aptitude for scoring goals, was reasonably quick, but had nothing else to his game, fine if you're going to build your team around him, but....
The point I was making, as i'm sure you know is, that he's at West Ham, for a reason, and it's not because he likes blowing bubbles
I've no doubt whatsoever that if SAF was still the Manager that Rafael would still be in the team, and with a break with injuries he would have been as good as anybody out there now, but I can understand why the Managers that followed the great man thought differently.
Totally agree, he was the best right-back we've had since Johnny Sivebæk
Yea not sure how Moyes did bigger damage than LvG. Moyes brought 2 players who the current manager is still using and did not sell off any players. Moyes was just out of his depth.
I rate Valencia highly.
But Rafael was better.
He was a genuine outlet and would often lead the team in touches in a game. He didn't hoof.
He never should have left. Moyes, LVG and even Jose have fecked up their transfers. Jose has been the best With transfers out of all hence the better record and trophy count.
But Rafael was better.
He was a genuine outlet and would often lead the team in touches in a game. He didn't hoof.
He never should have left. Moyes, LVG and even Jose have fecked up their transfers. Jose has been the best With transfers out of all hence the better record and trophy count.
LVG 52.43% (win %)
Moyes 52.94% (win %)
Both managers failed to live up to the hype...however, LVG = abject failure of watchable football.
Agree with previous poster who said they almost stopped watching Man Utd after 35 years. First time I'd ever just watch the highlights as I couldn't stand watching an entire game under his watch!
Moyes 52.94% (win %)
Both managers failed to live up to the hype...however, LVG = abject failure of watchable football.
Agree with previous poster who said they almost stopped watching Man Utd after 35 years. First time I'd ever just watch the highlights as I couldn't stand watching an entire game under his watch!
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Loved Rafael - I have a signed shirt of his at home, which is of course worth the square toot of sweet FA. When he was fit and on form, he was brilliant. He certainly would be an improvement of what we have since he was sold (that’s not saying much at all) - but never played enough games. Loved him at utd.
Touched his head and asked for respect 
That's a fun read.
That's a fun read.
Van Gaal knew. He wasnt good enough to start and injury prone, but people wanted him here cause he gave it all. Never understood the love he gets on here. Didnt think once about him since he left, similar to Evans. We need to get more deadwood out, especially in defense.
100% this. No time for sympathy in football. Rafael was a trier. That was about it. Rojo, Jones and Darmian have 2 weeks to be shifted
Evans would have been a solid addition to our defence these last few years. There’s a reason he was linked with the likes of City and Arsenal.
If van Gaal knew, then he wouldn't have signed Darmian in his replacement. Shouldn't have sold Rafael or Evans for that matter, both of them would've been valuable squad members.
LVG knew feck all, that moron couldn't find the back of his head. If he knew he wouldn't have sold Rafael just to replace him with Darmian.
He would be a squad player at both clubs, here too. Completely lost it under van Gaal, there was a short time where he made one heavy mistake every game he played. Seeing as Arsenal and City play out from the back at every opportunity now, i dont think he would do well in that kind of system.
This is what baffles me, sometimes it feels like people don't actually watch our matches.
Did you not watch the 12/13 season? He was great. He was technically very gifted from a young age with the ball, very good at defending 1 on 1, and imo could've become one of the right back greats if he'd come to us 10 years earlier under SAF. He still looks good when I watch him for Lyon in the CL/Europa.
Van Gaal was an idiot. Vardy being a twat against him = no more chances. Sad really.
Darmian was a good addition in theory, cheap and Italian international. Could play on both sides and also flexible as a wingback or fullback. Completely disappointed though, but many people approved of his signing at that time.
That’s true. He really struggled with the switch to 5 at the back. All our defenders did. Which would make you question Van Gaal’s reputation as a great training ground coach. Since then he’s established himself as one of the better CB’s in the Premier League and would have been a solid addition to our squad these last few years instead of, say, Blind or Rojo.
Rafael wasnt good enough under van Gaal and injury prone. Plus he wouldnt have survived Jose either. Once Fergie was gone, his United career was pretty much too. Lyon is his level
I'm actually speechless.
If LVG effectively sacked Rafael in a meeting which lasted 1 minute - I think that sucks.
If I get the can or asked to start applying for other jobs (ie. you are going to get fired, if you stay here), I'd at least like to be treated with some dignity.
If I get the can or asked to start applying for other jobs (ie. you are going to get fired, if you stay here), I'd at least like to be treated with some dignity.
LvG knew feck all. He simply didn't like Brazilians.
The Pulis effect. Sitting deep and defending in numbers makes even the most average defenders look good.
Obviously Evans is talented but he was never top quality. It's a shame City didn't sign him as it would have been a big error IMO.
Ah the ol' van Gaal must be racist stick.
Rafael just isn't that good.
Rafael just isn't that good.
Loved him. He was unbelievable in SAF last season. Got sold in the right time though, no complaints.
Rafael or Darmian? I know who I'd pick. The lad had cojones.
Funny because both Evans and Rafael would improve us right now, considering we have dross like Darmian and Rojo playing. Even Evans over Jones or someone.
Hmmm.. Not based on what we've seen at United!
Nor was Schweinsteiger, Memphis, Darmian, Rojo, Shaw et al.
http://www.espn.co.uk/football/club...ed-full-back-rafael-da-silva-talks-to-espn-fc
Rafael was I think 1 of the 2 players that we cleared out post Fergie that I wish had stayed.
I'd love to have him here right now.
It is not that he doesnt like Brazilians per se, but how they view and live football, most of them at least. He would hate Neymar thats for sure. But someone like Fernandinho or Filipe Luis wouldnt be an issue
Rafa was one of those average players that SAF made look good.
Loved his energy and his passion for the club though.
Loved his energy and his passion for the club though.
Possibly, although its hard to say he knew what he was doing given the transfers he approved. (Martial being the only notable exception).
Rafael - Smalling - Jones - Fabio
Yes many approved, but we aren't paid good money to authorise the signings, it'll still be counted as a failure on his part.