Ralf Rangnick | ex-interim manager | does anyone rate him?

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i think you saw today the effort put forth by Rashford and Sancho that they are prepared to put in a defensive shift for the team. Ronaldo up top with those two and we have a quality from three.

Ralf just has to figure out how to improve the back 6 and get Bruno back into some sort of form
 
Thiagoal said:
I think people will be surprised by how much we improve in a short period of time under RR. We have some very talented players that at present look aimless and clueless-some discipline and structure will hopefully make all the difference!
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Been saying that since a few months into the Solskjær-nightmare. Adrenaline and passion will bring great player a decent way before havoc enters, now it’s finally ended. A professional manager like Rangnick will have the players working as a team in a very short time, luckily we have the easiest fixture list I’ve ever seen coming up.
 
The longer it takes, the more damages we are making. It takes time to implement the new system to the player. Can’t waste too much time.

We really need a proper coaching that can coach our team to produce good build up play and effective pressing.
 
Now the buzz has settled a bit it’s time to get realistic and temper expectations. It’s a process with the interim period being the foundation, he’ll implement his ideas but it’ll take time for these lot to learn and adapt. Shite doesn’t suddenly turn into a diamond.
 
Ronaldo's ego said:
Now the buzz has settled a bit it’s time to get realistic and temper expectations. It’s a process with the interim period being the foundation, he’ll implement his ideas but it’ll take time for these lot to learn and adapt. Shite doesn’t suddenly turn into a diamond.
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But it does turn into diamonds over time?
 
Brophs said:
But it does turn into diamonds over time?
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Technically it does, but you have to apply a lot of mechanical pressure on it.

Take it as a metaphor for long and detailed training sessions.
 
UnitedSofa said:
Eagerly awaiting posts from moany posters on here when we don’t hit the ground running when Ralf gets here (it’ll take a few weeks if not a month or two before we get the cogs running perfectly, I mean hopefully it’ll be a Tuchel effect and it’ll happen almost overnight, but not holding my breath) and about how shit he is and how the board are inept. :lol: :lol:
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I for one, will be happy if he gets us playing "properly" by the end of the season and lays the foundation for the permanent manager. Not expecting immediate miracles with these players and coaches.
 
Am I right in thinking we are going to see some direct high intensity football once Ralf has got his feet under the table? sort of like a more sophisticated version of kick and rush? Where we look to go forward ASAP and then the whole team follows and pushes up to either build an attack or press high in a transition?
 
Ronaldo's ego said:
Now the buzz has settled a bit it’s time to get realistic and temper expectations. It’s a process with the interim period being the foundation, he’ll implement his ideas but it’ll take time for these lot to learn and adapt. Shite doesn’t suddenly turn into a diamond.
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We aren’t going to have the uplift that Chelsea had, but they were awful under Lampard. Shite can magically turn into a diamond.
 
alexthelion said:
I for one, will be happy if he gets us playing "properly" by the end of the season and lays the foundation for the permanent manager. Not expecting immediate miracles with these players and coaches.
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I agree. The thing is; do we really need miracles? We've been phenomenally hopeless as a club for years now. We don't need the footballing equivalent of @Cheimoon - able to calculate pi to thirteen million digits out loud whilst simultaneously perfectly making a hundred soufflés on a tin can stove (or something). All we really need is someone who can help develop a plan for the club going forward.

I've seen so many people saying "if he's so good then why was he in Russia" or "he's not a Pep style tactical mastermind and his former coaches have surpassed him". So what?! Are we forgetting that he's not replacing Pep, Tuchel or Klopp? He's replacing a manager who wasn't working, just like the previous three before him, under a senior management structure that had next to no organisation whatsoever.

We don't need "incredible" to be successful, we only need "good" and as far as I can see Rangnick is at least that both as a coach and director.
 
There was an interview today on 5 Live with Rashford where he said "...Ole didn't really coach us he just said " Go out there and show your ability"".

A coach may make a lot of difference.:wenger:
 
alexthelion said:
I for one, will be happy if he gets us playing "properly" by the end of the season and lays the foundation for the permanent manager. Not expecting immediate miracles with these players and coaches.
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Judging by the way you've reacted to a good point away at Chelsea under a caretaker manager I struggle massively to believe you'll be happy with that.
 
Stig said:
There was an interview today on 5 Live with Rashford where he said "...Ole didn't really coach us he just said " Go out there and show your ability"".

A coach may make a lot of difference.:wenger:
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It is criminal that we had that type of structure in place at our club for so long. Completely outmoded.
 
United love edging an announcement, I really hope we have Rangnick in place tomorrow so he can lead the team against Arsenal. The idea we've been better the last couple of games is bizarre, all that's happened is we've stopped any pretence of attacking and parked the bus with the handbrake welded in place.
 
Stig said:
There was an interview today on 5 Live with Rashford where he said "...Ole didn't really coach us he just said " Go out there and show your ability"".

A coach may make a lot of difference.:wenger:
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It's not really a shock, as we play like a team that hasn't been coached. What I did find shocking was the fact we had a board and match going fans fully behind such an amateur setup. It felt like the lunatics were running the asylum.
 
nainaisson said:
There were new guys among the coaching staff with earpieces whom I assumed were there to relay information from Rangnick. At least I'd never seen them before. One of them was a bald guy, distinct from the 2 other bald guys who are usually among the staff.
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Wait what? Anyone got pictures of this?
 
Devil may care said:
United love edging an announcement, I really hope we have Rangnick in place tomorrow so he can lead the team against Arsenal. The idea we've been better the last couple of games is bizarre, all that's happened is we've stopped any pretence of attacking and parked the bus with the handbrake welded in place.
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The last 20-30 of Villareal we absolutely attacked them.
 
AndySmith1990 said:
It's not really a shock, as we play like a team that hasn't been coached. What I did find shocking was the fact we had a board and match going fans fully behind such an amateur setup. It felt like the lunatics were running the asylum.
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You have to take into account we had "structure" under Van Gaal and it produced the most boring football in recorded history. I still shudder when I think about it.
 
Mr Pigeon said:
I agree. The thing is; do we really need miracles? We've been phenomenally hopeless as a club for years now. We don't need the footballing equivalent of @Cheimoon - able to calculate pi to thirteen million digits out loud whilst simultaneously perfectly making a hundred soufflés on a tin can stove (or something). All we really need is someone who can help develop a plan for the club going forward.

I've seen so many people saying "if he's so good then why was he in Russia" or "he's not a Pep style tactical mastermind and his former coaches have surpassed him". So what?! Are we forgetting that he's not replacing Pep, Tuchel or Klopp? He's replacing a manager who wasn't working, just like the previous three before him, under a senior management structure that had next to no organisation whatsoever.

We don't need "incredible" to be successful, we only need "good" and as far as I can see Rangnick is at least that both as a coach and director.
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I agree Rangnick is good, I just worry how well he will be able to do with our current coaches especially, moreso than the players who I have little faith in.
 
Judas said:
Judging by the way you've reacted to a good point away at Chelsea under a caretaker manager I struggle massively to believe you'll be happy with that.
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I'm not struggling with the point won, I'm just astounded that some can see some positivity with the performance, which was dire.
 
nainaisson said:
You have to take into account we had "structure" under Van Gaal and it produced the most boring football in recorded history. I still shudder when I think about it.
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People lacked patience with the Van Gaal tenure imo. If we had replaced him with a manager with the same values we’d have already won a PL.
 
alexthelion said:
I agree Rangnick is good, I just worry how well he will be able to do with our current coaches especially, moreso than the players who I have little faith in.
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The coaches just need to follow his instructions really. As long as they're able to understand what he tells them, and they can communicate effectively there shouldn't be too much to worry about there.
 
alexthelion said:
I agree Rangnick is good, I just worry how well he will be able to do with our current coaches especially, moreso than the players who I have little faith in.
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True enough. I think if Ronnie likes him (I don't buy this nonsense about Ronaldo being unable or going to refuse to press - if it's successful then he will, he wants to win after all) then I imagine that'll go a long way to getting the rest on board.
 
It's probably too late to get him signed up for the Arsenal game now. The day 2 PCR test would likely stop him from taking any training sessions before Thursday.

So I'd assume that Carrick will be at the wheel for at least one more game. Though if we're lucky, we might still see Rangnick presented on the pitch prior to kickoff.

My guess is that RR's first game in charge will be against Palace next Sunday.
 
Really hope he's taking training tomorrow.

As I go about my Monday I want to know that those players are getting the reality check of a lifetime, as well as leathered with proper tactical information probably for the first time in ages.
 
alexthelion said:
I agree Rangnick is good, I just worry how well he will be able to do with our current coaches especially, moreso than the players who I have little faith in.
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Don't think he is the kind to accept mediocre staff in his team. He will speak out and get them moved on. Also any manager who comes in will also bring his own team. Doubt most of the current staff members stay on.
 
I hope our fans and us on the caf can try to keep our expectations relatively low for these 6 months. It’s quite possible we’ll take one step forward and two back a few times when adapting to a new way of playing football. Keep in mind Klopps first season at Liverpool. I do however expect to see improvements in basics like pressing as a team, defending, in game tactics, and general patterns of play.

I’m saying this because it would be a natural thing to get disapointed when we’ve built him up to God level in our heads even before we’ve seen what he can do with this group of players. He’s well above Ole level at coaching, but he’s not the Messiah either.
Long term as a «Sports Director» I have no doubts he will work wonders though.

That being said, I’m absolutely buzzing for our first Ralf game!
 
TMDaines said:
I’m a bit worried this still hasn’t been announced. If everything is in place and it just hasn’t been announced, there’s nothing to worry about. If we are going to be going into the Arsenal game without a new manager, it could be terminal for our season.
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I don't know about terminal. We got the results under Carrick. He can steady the ship for 1 more game if need be.
 
Bild saying he probably won't be in the dugout till the weekend Vs Palace. Work permit taking a while.

Well done Brexiteers. Give yourself a pat on the back.
 
Nou_Camp99 said:
Bild saying he probably won't be in the dugout till the weekend Vs Palace. Work permit taking a while.

Well done Brexiteers. Give yourself a pat on the back.
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Well done United for not fixing all this in the International break
 
VinzentFTW said:
Well done United for not fixing all this in the International break
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That too.

Sounds like they weren't even guna sack Ole if we beat Watford though.

I was one of the most ardent Ole inners but he had to go after Liverpool for me. No Utd manager, bar Fergie, has enough credit in the bank to survive that result.

Liverpool won't score 5 at Old Trafford for another 50 years most likely, probably more.

The club hasn't got a clue what they're doing. If this Rangnick experiment doesn't work we could be left looking even more clueless. Let's hope he does know what he's doing.
 
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