Problem was the way Mourinho wanted to play and the way the club would like to play was different. It just showed how clueless the club is.
Rangnick - "Apart from goalkeeping we need to improve all areas of our squad" | Muppets amass
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Oh well if he said that I would have agreed with him! Though I don’t think he had got any better ideas than LvG on how to actually improve it.
You can say whatever you want but unless you do it on the pitch no one is going to buy it anyway. The players have already devalued themselves at the top level, Ralf’s literally saying it as it is
You have to admit, Ralph’s proven to be the only adult in the room amongst our bickering squad of underachievers.
It’s not just players fitting specific roles it’s players fitting specific systems in that role. For example we need a defensive mid so for example we could go out and buy Ndidi. What if however we had a possession manager like Ten Hag or Pep, while Ndidi is a decent player he wouldn’t be suitable to that system and tactic. For that reason it may make sense to go for a lessor player who just happens to have attributes that fit what we require.
There's nothing remotely shocking about his comments.
Why did he let Lukaku get so big and unfit?
Yeah, us having more clean sheets with Henderson in goal in 10 less appearances than De Gea really proved that one to be a "complete delusion". As did the fact we conceded 46 goals in De Gea's 36 appearances and only 22 in Henderson's 26 appearances. I'm not even a particularly big fan of Henderson but this notion that he blew his chance last season is ridiculous, he was rightly set to start the season as #1 this year due to his performances.Some people are justDDG is clearly good enough to be part of a trophy winning team. I would not be surprised if some here think Ramsdale is better than him because some actually thought Henderson is better than De Gea which was very quickly proven to be a complete delusion.
Sa, Sanchez, Raya, that's without even looking outside of the Premier League at players like Maignan, Maximiano, Onana, Simon, Kobel, Cakir, the list goes on. Long story short, it isn't particularly difficult to replace a goalkeeper who excels in one area but is amongst the worst in the league in all other aspects of his role.
Yeah there was literally one quote at that time which was the Romano one. The others came out after which made a lot more sense.
No idea. I’m not saying Mourinho did a great job. He didn’t. He did a better job than any manager we’ve had since Fergie but it wasn’t enough and not really the topic of this thread.
Why? Someone else would be in goal and someone else would be upfront. Did we not finish 2nd without Ronaldo’s goals last season.
Totally agree with this.
Ralf has been a bit shite, I won't deny it. But to say he's anything like Mourinho makes no sense to me. His observations come across as far more measured and logical, oh, and they're generally actually quite true. It's the total opposite of Mourinho who used to throw players under the bus randomly just to cover his arse. If Ralf was doing the same and wasn't simply stating facts then I'd say the same thing.
And let's be honest, this team have already completely downed tools and don't seem to give a shit so who cares, it's a far cry from under Mourinho where he was the one causing them to by constantly shitting on them.
My biggest problem with Ralf is that he won't back himself up on the pitch by dropping these players and giving some youngsters a chance instead.
As if saying every players will remain consistently as good every seasons…
People just like that he’s saying stuff that the club hierarchy need to hear, most importantly that the club has lacked but needs a clear vision of the type of manager and player it should be targeting. I don’t think he’s trying to deflect from his own poor performance, he’s not a full-time manager anymore anyway.
They are, but I would argue that both Pep and Klopp could not play the football they do with DDG at the back. Don’t think ETH will be able to, either.
As well as the playing staff I think the coaches need to stand up and be held just as accountable too. Their practicing methods and (recently revealed), dietary programs have failed miserably.
If we seek to play attacking football we can't have De Gea goalkeeping. Or we will need defenders that can teleport around the pitch at will. That being said, it's the least of our concerns. I'd do with players that actually want to play and win first and don't welt under the first sign of pressure.
Awful Man, how dare he tell the truth and upset the Glazers.
Greenwood is clearly a ‘maybe’ too.
Christ. Some people still advocate for Henderson.
Why are people moaning about what he has done as as a manager here?
I think the appointment has been a good one. He is an intelligent man and can now quite simply advise the board and new manager.....half this lots needs going and a major overhaul.....orf with there heads!!!!
I think the appointment has been a good one. He is an intelligent man and can now quite simply advise the board and new manager.....half this lots needs going and a major overhaul.....orf with there heads!!!!
I haven’t seen his name mentioned. I think they just want a different type of keeper. If Hendo was good enough it would of been a quick issue to fix.
Yet he won player of the year 4 times, 3 in a row and has also won the Premier League.We've been saying "with a decent back 4 in front of him" for 10 years now, it isn't happening, this guy would create panic with Rio & Vidic in front of him
Particularly when he goes to the trouble of explaining that the number of players needed is so high due to the number that are leaving in the summer.
This is the job Ralf was brought in to do. I agree with you @Pexbo that is does sound like a man who isn't being listened to by the board, and is trying to ramp up pressure publicly.
As obvious as it all seems, these are the conversations that need having with our board because they're the obvious moves that have been ignored for so long.
As fans we should be loudly and publicly supporting these comments and leaving the owners under no illusions as to how pissed off we'll be if they're ignored again.
As obvious as it all seems, these are the conversations that need having with our board because they're the obvious moves that have been ignored for so long.
As fans we should be loudly and publicly supporting these comments and leaving the owners under no illusions as to how pissed off we'll be if they're ignored again.
All this hysterical drivel about De Gea.... at the end of the day he will be the very last player in the squad, along with Sancho, Varane and Bruno, who gets replaced or upgraded.
Mendy is even worse with his feet than De Gea but Chelsea do okay. Their Kepa experiment down that path ended in a £72m catastrophe.
Doesn't help that of those who go on about the keeper situation a big chunk are deluded Maguire apologists who can't accept his cards are marked. And another chunk are Henderson fanboys who haven't yet twigged that he's not fit to lace Ben Foster's boots let alone stake a claim to be a top keeper.
Mendy is even worse with his feet than De Gea but Chelsea do okay. Their Kepa experiment down that path ended in a £72m catastrophe.
Doesn't help that of those who go on about the keeper situation a big chunk are deluded Maguire apologists who can't accept his cards are marked. And another chunk are Henderson fanboys who haven't yet twigged that he's not fit to lace Ben Foster's boots let alone stake a claim to be a top keeper.
Ajax fans can't wait to be rid of Onana far as I can tell. I won't be appointing you as goalkeeper scout when I'm United chairman I don't think.
It won't be in one window. He is just pointing out what we need going forward. It is not a quick fix process unfortunately.
The problem is that while what he said should be common sense, there has been a lot of pushback from fans, media and ex-players whenever people suggest that the manager shouldn't be in charge of everything because it's not an effective way to do things.
Largely because he's very publicly spoken about not signing a new deal after they supported him through his ban. Yet Inter Milan want to replace Handonovic with him, maybe they know a thing or two?
Yup. You only have to look at the week when ETH hadn’t been announced and the nonsense rumours were about him demanding full control - “give him whatever he wants!!!!!” “What are we playing at!!!!” Etc.
I don’t know. I don’t think Mourinho was wrong either. The likes of Shaw, Pogba and Martial certainly haven’t proven him wrong. Though Mourinho obviously had his part to play with some signings and his behaviour.
Rangnick has his part to play too though and we’ve looked a mess under him. And before anybody says it’s the players, we didn’t look as big a mess under Carrick. There’s more to being a manager than pointing out the squad’s shortcomings, anybody could do that and for half the salary.
Sometime ago i said; he's probably analysing existing players to see if they're good enough. He's not wrong in his analysis, he's also call out the rest of the squad to improve or you're not in future thinking.
While some have mentioned the board, the board has spent money, it's just poorly spent.
While some have mentioned the board, the board has spent money, it's just poorly spent.
It's been obvious for a while that 3/4 players every summer just isn't going to cut it when the squad's as far away as it is. I'm pleased someone actively inside the club is actually aware of this. What does concern me is how bloody obvious some of the things he said was.
Because different people have different opinions. Crazy concept and it would be easier if everybody just agreed with jesperjaap off the internet.
The only maybe is whether he's charged or not, either way he wont be playing for us.
Jose spent a load and still managed to assemble a squad that he didn’t see as fit for purpose.
Ralf has spent nothing
It’s apples and oranges
There's also more to being a manager than taking 4 points from 2 games as a placeholder.
You continually mentioning Carrick as though his mighty rein is some sort of stick with which to beat Rangnick with is farcical.
Mourinho said things with an agenda and always with malice.
Rangnick is just telling it how it is - and we can all agree.