[always_hoping]

Time that Ten Hag comes out and tells the truth to what's going on here.

My theory is Varane has told him that he's off to Saudi and that's he's not in the long term plans and he's trying other options. Shaw at centre back is fine when with injuries but not with a couple of fit centre backs sitting on the bench and unused. Shaw was also needed at left back to tonight.

 

[NotoriousISSY]

We’re not missing him.

We might be missing pre Carabao Cup Casemiro but not Varane.

 

[el3mel]

He will never play again. Another one bites the dust under Ten Hag.

Not that he was prime Vidic or anything but the way Ten Hag is dealing with the squad will end up with more players turning on him in no time. He's handing it very badly.

 

[Woodzy]

Feels a weird thread for me to moan in after our two CB’s being our best players today, but leaving a Champions League and World Cup winner on the bench when he still hasn’t completely past his prime doesn’t sit right with me.

 

[steve zizou]

I get it if Varane has lost his position because Maguire is in form but no one can tell me Luke Shaw is a better CB than Varane not especially when you have to play a RB at LB to make that decision.
Sometimes...

 

[Dan_F]

I get it if Varane has lost his position because Maguire is in form but no one can tell me Luke Shaw is a better CB than Varane not especially when you have to play a RB at LB to make that decision.
Sometimes...

Yeah but Shaw is left footed. You know, for all that cultured football we play out from the back.

 

[MadMike]

I get it if Varane has lost his position because Maguire is in form but no one can tell me Luke Shaw is a better CB than Varane not especially when you have to play a RB at LB to make that decision.
Sometimes...

You don’t through. Reguilon was just there. He didn’t have to start Dalot at RB. Those are separate decisions.

Last couple of games from Varane have been pretty poor to be honest. He looks slow and like having mentally checked out. Might be because of the manager, sure, but then I can see why the manager doesn’t pick him.

 

[Lay]

He’s not playing again is he. I don’t mind honestly, I don’t rate him that highly

 

[ArmaDino]

I don't understand why this thread is getting bumped?

It's not like our problems come from our poor selection CBs. Maguire, Lindelof and Shaw all have been decent recently.

Most of our issues come from the non-existing midfield that doesn't tracks it's runners and as a result they get a free run at our goal.

Varane in no shape of form will solve that. Neither will he solve our build up from the back. Only Martinez and Shaw are good that. On the ball I don't see him any better than Maguire.

 

[elmo]

Time that Ten Hag comes out and tells the truth to what's going on here.

My theory is Varane has told him that he's off to Saudi and that's he's not in the long term plans and he's trying other options. Shaw at centre back is fine when with injuries but not with a couple of fit centre backs sitting on the bench and unused. Shaw was also needed at left back to tonight.

I’m starting to think that the Glazers want rid of all our highest paid players so they can continue to get their yearly payouts.

We’ve removed Ronaldo and De Ge’s wages. Dropped Varane and Sancho.

That’s like 2m each week combined?

 

[always_hoping]

I’m starting to think that the Glazers want rid of all our highest paid players so they can continue to get their yearly payouts.

We’ve removed Ronaldo and De Ge’s wages. Dropped Varane and Sancho.

That’s like 2m each week combined?

Nice theory but I doubt it's true. Ronaldo had a clear public fall out same as Sancho. DeGea well known also, it's more of mystery what's going on with Varane, fair enough if others are chosen to start instead of him but he's barely getting any minutes on the pitch the last couple of games.

 

[lsd]

No one believing Ten Hag anymore

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[TheReligion]

Not even on the bench due to a sore back.

Sounds like bollocks.

 

[Woodenlung]

Varane is either a perma crock or willing to knife his manager in the back.

Either way we have to get rid.

 

[lsd]

Varane is either a perma crock or willing to knife his manager in the back.

Either way we have to get rid.

Nonsense he's been frozen out because ten hag can't manage big players.

 

[Ayoba]

Ffs. Hate the way hag has marginalised him.

 

[Sandikan]

Kick those winners out!
Ronaldo, Casemiro and Varane.

Can't have these guys who've won the lot putting their opinion in.

 

[Big Ben Foster]

Varane is either a perma crock or willing to knife his manager in the back.

Either way we have to get rid.

We have to move past him at some point, sure, but why does it have to be one of those two explanations?

 

[AjaxCunian]

What a crap thread some of you have made this.

 

[Stadjer]

the conspiracy theories here

Varane picked up an injury... that is hardly something unbelievable.

 

[lsd]

Kick those winners out!
Ronaldo, Casemiro and Varane.

Can't have these guys who've won the lot putting their opinion in.

That's the answer Ten Hag can't cope with players who actually know how a big successful club should be run.

 

[TheGame]

That's the answer Ten Hag can't cope with players who actually know how a big successful club should be run.

Yeah right because that's what happened with Ronaldo isn't it? You have no fecking idea what is going on and are just resorting to coming out with shite like Luckhurst.

 

[TheGame]

No one believing Ten Hag anymore

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Of all the journalists to quote, you quote that shite source.

 

[90 + 5min]

That's the answer Ten Hag can't cope with players who actually know how a big successful club should be run.

There is a reason Real Madrid let them all go. I'm not saying tenHag knows it all but there is a reason.

If you still don't understand after all why Ronaldo needed to go, it will be hard to discuss with you.

 

[tomaldinho1]

Nonsense he's been frozen out because ten hag can't manage big players.

Or shit ones

 

[harms]

Kick those winners out!
Ronaldo, Casemiro and Varane.

Can't have these guys who've won the lot putting their opinion in.

One is not like the others.

 

[Bastian]

I had been hoping for a Varane-Shaw pairing this match, even if that had been an injustice to Maguire who has really been solid in the last few matches. But then it turns out he was injured with a sore back, hasn't played in ages. It's not just Maguire's recent form that keeps him out I guess, but that he's difficult to rely on due to being injured for half the games. Such a shame.

I hope we get another defender in the door in January.

 

[spontaneus1]

No one believing Ten Hag anymore

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Obviously Luckhurst a little sore about the rag he works for being banned from press conferences.

 

[Aint gota Kalou]

If he's out with another niggle it shows ten Hag was right to drop him. He's a nice luxury when you have a consistent quality back 4 and he can drop in and out but we needed some consistency in selection and Maguire is at least available and performing. I wouldn't be sad if he went in the winter as long as we can bring in a younger CB.

 

[Lee565]

All I can think is a Saudi side has offered us good money and ten hag is trying to get him to accept the move

 

[Acheron]

Kick those winners out!
Ronaldo, Casemiro and Varane.

Can't have these guys who've won the lot putting their opinion in.

I really wonder why he's falling out with them. I more or less get the issues with Ronaldo but overall the 3 of them were good professionals with good work ethic.

 

[SAFMUTD]

It's clear something happened between ten Hag and him. I know he played awful in UCL, but to select Maguire, Lindelof, Shaw and even Evans before him it's not reasonable.

 

[Rossa]

You hang our best CB out to dry. You replace him with our best LB. Unfortunately our best LB is at best an average CB. So ETH has decided to not only weaken our CB pairing but also weaken our LB.

Clearly the right foot for LCB position does strangely not apply for LB where Dalot played. Either stick by your arguments, or you are made to look a fool.

 

[Roboc7]

When we eventually start picking him again he’ll get injured. Has to be on his way in January surely, even if don’t get a replacement until the summer.

 

[Paddymcc]

You hang our best CB out to dry. You replace him with our best LB. Unfortunately our best LB is at best an average CB. So ETH has decided to not only weaken our CB pairing but also weaken our LB.

Clearly the right foot for LCB position does strangely not apply for LB where Dalot played. Either stick by your arguments, or you are made to look a fool.

He really is making himself look like a complete and utter tool with the brack tracking on his statements like those.

 

[shabadu84]

It's one thing to do it with Sancho who never proved his worth here over multiple seasons. But this has become indefensible now. Cut off your nose to spite your face management.

 

[Insanity]

You hang our best CB out to dry. You replace him with our best LB. Unfortunately our best LB is at best an average CB. So ETH has decided to not only weaken our CB pairing but also weaken our LB.

Clearly the right foot for LCB position does strangely not apply for LB where Dalot played. Either stick by your arguments, or you are made to look a fool.

Lindelof has played plenty at LCB too. He has clearly fallen out with him for whatever reason.

 

[stevoc]

Good to see he was fit enough again today to be sat on the bench taking up a place someone else could use, just so the manager can keep up the pretence that he hasn't frozen him out.

Top management.

 

[frostbite]

Is Varane also required to offer a public apology or something?

 

[Mercurial]

Is Varane also required to offer a public apology or something?

They have both kept mum vis-à-vis, it's all a bit odd. Probably for the better? Maybe he has a deal in place and they don't want him to scratch himself and break the deal.