Raphael Varane | Signed for United!

[We need an rvn]

This is just going to go one way as per nearly all Real Madrid players wanting a new contract and the club not initially meeting their demand...Do people honestly not think he's just holding on for more money than their initial offer?

This is how it will go - the papers write that we definitely have the chance to sign him - muppets pull out their weaners - we offer him a contract and he's really interested - Madrid match the offer and he stays in sunny Madrid.

Yet all along the club knew this and there was never any official word from United (unlike when Bayern chase a player) and we sign someone else

I hate posting these but there are just too many incidents of players using United to get a better contract at their current club

Ed will chase him all summer and then he'll sign a new contract with RM. Phil Jones will be announced as fitter than he's ever been and will be like a new signing.

You beat me to it with fewer words by a minute or so but exactly the same thinking

 

[2 man midfield]

Ronaldo, Ramos, Varane. What is it about Madrid players using our name to drive prices up?

 

[Wayne's World]

Ed will chase him all summer and then he'll sign a new contract with RM. Phil Jones will be announced as fitter than he's ever been and will be like a new signing.

Sad but true

 

[OleGunnar20]

We literally got one of those in the summer and everyone is saying how great he’s been.

Ha, you're not wrong. I suppose I'm still damaged from the Sanchez / Di Maria debacles.

I do think as a general rule there types of signings are a bad idea, with exceptions of course.

 

[VP89]

How has he been for Madrid of late? Is he shite now?

 

[tomaldinho1]

Is he renewing his contract or something? Seems the standard tactic with La Liga defenders.

 

[Paxi]

I'm sure you know what I mean He's been at Madrid for a decade now, and I definitely have a feeling that his masterclass against Barcelona happened a long, long time ago (far earlier than it happened actually). He also has a trophy cabinet of an all-time great defender (even though it may be a bit early to put him at that level). All at the age of 27 — he's just a few months younger than Lingard, ffs!


It's alright

He’s everything Philip Jones should have been.

 

[Paxi]

Feck no please. Madrid are trying to get rid of him.

Stay away.

I think he’s heart is not in Madrid any more. He’s won everything he could with them, multiple times. They want him to stay but I think it’s Varane who wants out and amicably.

 

[mazhar13]

Ronaldo, Ramos, Varane. What is it about Madrid players using our name to drive prices up?

He hasn't used our name like Ronaldo and Ramos have in the past. At this time, the Spanish and English media are linking us to him purely out of conjecture. The story of Varane leaving Madrid is also out of conjecture; he'll enter his final year next season, so the logical conclusion is that Madrid will salvage some value out of him rather than lose him for free.

 

[Rozay]

Ha, you're not wrong. I suppose I'm still damaged from the Sanchez / Di Maria debacles.

I do think as a general rule there types of signings are a bad idea, with exceptions of course.

I get where you’re coming from. Sort of.

As a ‘general rule’ - we should look to sign good players that can help the team. That’s it really. Beyond that, every prospective signing should be pursued on its own merits with its own due diligence done. Whether that is not signing another Argentine because of this player, or not signing another Raiola player - I think it’s all case by case. The right player at the right time will come in different forms. Sometimes it will be a 30-something year old Sheringham, others it will be a 19 year old.

 

[Paxi]

He hasn't used our name like Ronaldo and Ramos have in the past. At this time, the Spanish and English media are linking us to him purely out of conjecture. The story of Varane leaving Madrid is also out of conjecture; he'll enter his final year next season, so the logical conclusion is that Madrid will salvage some value out of him rather than lose him for free.

Also people close to United camp thought that Ronaldo in 2013 was on the cards before Sir Alex called it a day. Heard few people talking about it. Also, Ramos said he was genuinely interested in joining us and he was close to it as well. That came from his own mouth.

 

[zenith]

Now watch him sign a new 5 year contract with Madrid within the next 2 weeks.

If people still get carried away by this sort of thing then I feel sorry for them. Been happening way too often and far too long to be taken seriously

 

[talking robot]

Imagine we have to consider Navas as an all-time great GK?

Not a world cup winner (though just to be clear, I'm not backing the original claim that Varane was an all-time great. Just making the point that his CV is brilliant, and that this argument doesn't strike me as totally absurd).

 

[sourdough satellite]

We literally got one of those in the summer and everyone is saying how great he’s been.

Cavani's been great, but only relative to the really low expectations the caf had of him.

 

[Rozay]

Cavani's been great, but only relative to the really low expectations the caf had of him.

The caf should not have had those low expectations though. He’s met any sensible expectations anyone should have had of him. Injuries aside. And he runs a lot, which is the quickest way into a caftards heart anyway!

 

[croadyman]

Would be my number 1 target for a CB signing but can understand where people are coming from who think that he is using our name just to get a better contract like we saw with Ramos in 2015

 

[Mainoldo]

Can someone please advice this thread how good he’s been if you watch Madrid regularly.

Ive watch him 4 times recently and he’s been absolutely rubbish!! Lost his pace and looks like a retiring Rio Ferdinand.

 

[croadyman]

Can someone please advice this thread how good he’s been if you watch Madrid regularly.

Ive watch him 4 times recently and he’s been absolutely rubbish!! Lost his pace and looks like a retiring Rio Ferdinand.

Oh no this is turning into the Rice thread as sounds like it's another which is going to divide the fanbase again

 

[Mainoldo]

Oh no this is turning into the Rice thread as sounds like it's another which is going to divide the fanbase again

I have to ask because I feel like I’m on my own as everyone still rates him. So I have to see if this is old opinions or watching him lately.

 

[croadyman]

I have to ask because I feel like I’m on my own as everyone still rates him. So I have to see if this is old opinions or watching him lately.

I am hoping he just needs a new challenge to revitalise him but whether it's with us remains to be seen

 

[USREDEVIL]

Oh no this is turning into the Rice thread as sounds like it's another which is going to divide the fanbase again

Not this fanbase. Very agreeable lot we are.

 

[G-manc]

On each occasion i've seen him in the last couple of years (which admittedly is only 8-10 times) he's been average or utterly woeful.

Hopefully we've just been linked to him because of past interest. Do not want.

 

[dinostar77]

Would be my number 1 target for a CB signing but can understand where people are coming from who think that he is using our name just to get a better contract like we saw with Ramos in 2015

Agreed. Will probably sign a new deal at Madrid. But if he really does decide to leave. We gotta sign him. Elite experienced CB. Would probably work well with Maguire i think.

 

[TrustInJanuzaj]

How can anyone turn their nose up at Varane is just beyond me. I swear some posters just want the shiniest, newest toys out there, despite the fact we have a proven world-class defender right in front of us. Put simply, if there's any chance we can get this done (there likely isn't) then we have to pull out all the stops as he can make us a title contender.

 

[NoLogo]

How can anyone turn their nose up at Varane is just beyond me. I swear some posters just want the shiniest, newest toys out there, despite the fact we have a proven world-class defender right in front of us. Put simply, if there's any chance we can get this done (there likely isn't) then we have to pull out all the stops as he can make us a title contender.

This always goes in cycles. Defender playing well for a team "Weeeeee neeeeeeed taht defender naaaaaooooooowwwww!!!!!11", player makes a mistake or has a shite game in a CL game. "Ugh complete fraud, don't touch him with a ten foot pole." It's pretty funny how people judge defenders not on the 30 good games a season but on the 3 games they made a mistake in.

 

[Sunny Jim]

 

[sun_tzu]

Agreed. Will probably sign a new deal at Madrid. But if he really does decide to leave. We gotta sign him. Elite experienced CB. Would probably work well with Maguire i think.

Pretty much how I see it... probabky won't leave Madrid... even if he does then probably they try to do something with psg and mbappe... even if that does not work im not sure he fancies swapping madrid for Manchester... and even if he did im sure he will look at alabas wage demands and think he would be better off waiting for a year and leaving on a free... but if somehow it did happen then I agree I think he would work well with maguire and certainly would be an upgrade on lindeloff
Chances of it happening though seem remote

 

[spiriticon]

I think he's great but I'm not sure if he's the defender we need...

 

[Mainoldo]

This always goes in cycles. Defender playing well for a team "Weeeeee neeeeeeed taht defender naaaaaooooooowwwww!!!!!11", player makes a mistake or has a shite game in a CL game. "Ugh complete fraud, don't touch him with a ten foot pole." It's pretty funny how people judge defenders not on the 30 good games a season but on the 3 games they made a mistake in.

Then we sign him he plays crap and everyone somehow already knew he was finished they just never cared to mention it but instead made post like yours. Spit lyrical about the 30 games you haven’t even seen but instead criticise those who watched 3 games more than you.

 

[TrustInJanuzaj]

I think he's great but I'm not sure if he's the defender we need...

Why would you say that?

 

[spiriticon]

Why would you say that?

I'm not sure we need more ball-playing, technically good centrebacks who are great on the ball but may get bullied by the likes of Troy Deeney and Mark Noble

 

[TrustInJanuzaj]

I'm not sure we need more ball-playing, technically good centrebacks who are great on the ball but may get bullied by the likes of Troy Deeney and Mark Noble

Varane is a pretty big guy though, surely after some adjustment, he would be absolutely fine with the physicality. Besides, he will play next to Maguire who isn't short of physicality either.

 

[spiriticon]

Varane is a pretty big guy though, surely after some adjustment, he would be absolutely fine with the physicality. Besides, he will play next to Maguire who isn't short of physicality either.

Perhaps he will, but I don't want to take another CB risk. I just prefer a Puyol or Ramos type defender at the moment. But I wouldn't go for Ramos because he is way too old now.

 

[carvajal]

A few years ago, Pepe stopped playing and Varane began to do it assiduously.
It even seemed that Pepe was being removed prematurely. I think before that he considered leaving.
Perhaps now he feels the same, to stop living in the shadow of Ramos and seek new challenges.
In theory the club wants him to be the captain, but it would not happen until the exit of Ramos, Marcelo and Karim, that is, his situation will be more or less the same, even with less salary.
His status, recognition will not increase substantially (it is said that he missed more attention from the club after winning the World Cup).
I also think that both the club and the fans today would sell 3/4 of the team. Due to family circumstances, French wife and with two small children, he may think of Paris, but he is not really a well-known player by the public, nor do I know to what extent Zidane's presence is fundamental for his decision.

 

[dinostar77]

Wherever he goes, he'll be an asset to any defence. Top 5 CBs in europe easily. Rolls Royce of a CB.

 

[redshaw]

Would he be a good partner with our Easter Island statue?

 

[Okey]

Just smacks of good old Madrid player antics, but if this is different, what a buy he could be. Won't cost the earth, and you get a world class CB in his prime years. He's been at Madrid 10 years and won it all so it's not really that strange to want a different challenge. One last big pay day.

 

[Adcuth]

Would he be a good partner with our Easter Island statue?

Got the pace to cover for him and AWB. Strong tackler, good in the air

 

[lenny_1248]

People are going too far with this "Varane is no longer good". Yes, his form dipped a little after the World Cup and the game against City last season was a shitshow, but the way people talk about him now you'd think he's a glorified Lovren.
He's still a top CB, who won everything.
As for mistakes, even VVD had some brainfarts before the injury.

 

[bsCallout]

Not watched enough of him. Does he get many injuries?