Thanks. Atleast on paper it could work with Maguire then who plays on the left.
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If we do get him. Should we just cut our losses with Lindelof to try and recoup some money and have the first replacement after Maguire and Varane as Tuanzebe or Baily?
We'd also have some payments to make for previous transfers this year. But yes, there should be more money there.
I don't think so, Bailly is a sick note and I'd rather we look to sell him first.
Worryingly, I hear he's better on the left.
This fills me with hope, hopefully our standing with players around the world is that we are steadily improving each season, being part of that project could be the fire he needs again after winning it all. What a feather in his cap if he joins United and helps lead them back to the title!
It just sounds to good to be true as in my opinion, he would be the ideal partner for Maguire who loves being the aggressor as Ramos always was!
They don't need to be cash-rich. if the banks are willing to finance then it's all systems go on the finance side.
Even then a 40m pound deal shouldn't be a problem surely? Spread over 5 years like Sancho?
I think it’s a tactic to convince Madrid to sell closer to United’s price than theirs. Otherwise they will be left stuck with a player who doesn’t want to be there anymore and they’ll get next to nothing for him next year
Exactly as I took it, from the Sancho deal of last year to this shows we are not willing to be used anymore as a cash injection and will negotiate strongly. I have no problem if United have leaked this to the press for future deals after being proved correct with Sancho.
Are we actually becoming more intelligent when it comes to negotiating?
Seems that way? who would have thought we'd get such a fair deal for Sancho in the end.Exactly as I took it, from the Sancho deal of last year to this shows we are not willing to be used anymore as a cash injection and will negotiate strongly. I have no problem if United have leaked this to the press for future deals after being proved correct with Sancho.
Are we actually becoming more intelligent when it comes to negotiating?
Surely the first instalment we’ve paid for Sancho this year is more than £17m?
We do need to start considering incoming cash as well as spending and to that end I think something needs to happen with Lingard now that we have Sancho confirmed, just don't see any role for Lingard here next year. If we are signing a CB then again we need to look to make some space, Victor would presumably be the first choice back up but with a number of younger players pushing there is no need to keep hold of Bailly and Jones as well so one should be sold. Jones would be everyones preference but the reality is that he probably has no market, Bailly does have some value and considering his stance over playing time I would imagine he would be eager to push a move through if we sign someone to start alongside Harry.
19 years old Varane was better than 28 years old Varane.
He was sick when he first got his break through. Last 2-3 year he's not improved at all.
He was sick when he first got his break through. Last 2-3 year he's not improved at all.
Ramos to P$G done...
PSG look to be signing Ramos on a 2 year deal so that take PSG out of the equation for Varane. Unless City come in for him, Varane and United seem the most likely destination if he really plans on leaving Madrid.
He may not be the same player, but still a level above Lindelof. His big game experience is what we are missing at the moment.
So united knew for about a year what money they need to pay for Sancho. And still they contacted Varane and Camavinga! It is not that they found out upfront fee just 2 weeks back. This article implies united thought upfront fee would be 1m but ended up paying 40m ffs.
Sounds like he needs a new challenge in a league where defending matters
I would not worry about that. If you are trying to buy a player you brief constantly that you are broke and might have to look elsewhere and if you are the selling club you are flush with cash and don't need to take a penny less than your asking price. In transfers, everybody lies.
Camavinga could be just an enquiry or early groundwork and dependant on Pogba staying or leaving. Varane yeah, no way we contacted Madrid for talks to buy him if the club is flush of cash. This is an elite player we are talking about
With Ramos to PSG being a done dealio, we’re in the clear for securing Varane.
Would be so typical of Real to slap a 75m price tag on him though.
Good news: A renewal will probably cost (only) £40m
Lindelof: £30m
Bailey: minus £30m (swap deal Pau Torres).
Varane: minus £40m
Ramos pretty much confirmed for PSG now. Giving us a clear route to Varane. Lovely jubbley.
He wouldn't still sign a contract for Madrid though would he?
He wouldn't still sign a contract for Madrid though would he?
Varane to PSG is now unlikely.
Ramos, Marquinhos and Kimpembe should be enough.
Ramos, Marquinhos and Kimpembe should be enough.
Varane has played on both sides.
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Simon Stone confirmed that we have contacted Real Madrid for Varane.
Now the serious sources are backing this up. This definitely has legs, lads. It’s not about a contract ploy anymore. It’s genuine interest from us and the player
Jesus fecking christ
Tbf Sky, Fabrizio, Di Marzio, BBC all reported Ramos to United back in the day too
Oh wow, that's about as concrete as it gets as confirmation that we've made contact!
https://sempremilan.com/cm-real-mad...lan-in-pursuit-of-e15m-rated-man-utd-defender
could certainly help bridge the gap with madrid
could certainly help bridge the gap with madrid
Really happy if this goes through, even if I'm sure Lindelof is dreading it. Lindelof just isn't a starting CB, BUT I would take him in a heartbeat as a third choice CB. A 3-man rotation of Maguire-Varane-Lindelof (plus Bailly if he's healthy) is very solid and I would have no complaints. You don't have to have a top 3 player at every position to win. Let's be honest: scoring is much harder than defending, which is why Goals For is the tiebreaker ahead of Goals Against in the PL. I would rather have reliable CB's with extra depth and invest any savings I have into the forward and midfield departments to up the attacking flow. With Varane, the next mission is fixing the midfield so the ball can move from the back four to the attack much more fluidly.
Why would City go in for him? Stones + Dias have proven that they're a great partnership and they still have Laporte, Ake etc. PSG are set with Ramos + Kimpembe, Bayern aren't spending a lot this year, Pool signed Konate (so no more CB signings), I assume Juve have bigger issues so they won't be in either and no one else from Italy / Germany can afford him.
That leaves
Spurs (actively targeting the same set of CBs as us: Kounde, Torres etc.)
Chelsea: They don't like Azpi as their 3rd CB (Rudiger + T. Silva are nailed on). The plan was to sign Hakimi and have Reece James as the 3rd CB but that didn't really happen. Maybe they'll go for another wing back.
I haven't seen any links from either of these clubs but the only real competition would be from Chelse
So that's Times, BBC reporting our interest, nice. Would be awesome start to the window.
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