Escobar
Shameless Musketeer
People forget that Rooney cost a bomb at the time as well. We payed for pure potential
That's fair, yes, but we'll need some actual stats to start comparing, is all I'm saying. Would be a deception if he scores at a low rate but we also will have to judge in the team as a whole, the front 3 clearly suffer from missing his profile.His rate of returns you can probably judge, though.
By which I mean we know he returned 0.44 non-penalty goals and 0.47 NPxG per 90 in Serie A last season. However many minutes he plays for us, it will almost certainly be enough to be able to draw a comparison to that. So the degree to which he drops off or improves on those numbers upon moving to the PL will tell us a lot.
If he translated those goal returns 1-to-1 to the PL he'd be returning at roughly the same rate the likes of Jesus, Toney, Isak, Mitrovic and Watkins did last season. Which from a 20 year old in his first season would be an excellent sign as that's basically the sub Kane/Haaland tier of CF in the league.
So that seems like a good standard by which to judge his first season productivity in the minutes he gets.
Rooney was sensational at 16 and world class by the time he was 20. We weren't paying for potential. There was no doubt about how good he'd bePeople forget that Rooney cost a bomb at the time as well. We payed for pure potential
What?! He was already a big player at Euro 2004. Paying for pure potential would've been signing him at 14.People forget that Rooney cost a bomb at the time as well. We payed for pure potential
Surely you didn't see him at the time to have this bizarre view? Rooney was a sure thing, there was no doubt, hence the unbelievable excitement around him before and when we bought him. He was a man when he was signed, even if his birth certificate said otherwise. Pure potentialPeople forget that Rooney cost a bomb at the time as well. We payed for pure potential
Rooney was so so underrated here.People forget that Rooney cost a bomb at the time as well. We payed for pure potential
This. Rooney's hype was like Bellingham on roids. He was hyped like the second coming of Christ destined to bring the NT back to glory. If there was another Rooney like player right now he wouldnt sell for under 100m at the cheapest. Im not taking anything from Hojlund here but when both are at the same age and stage of their career Hojlund isnt fit to lace Rooney's boot. This is just speaking objectively. Rooney was United top scorer during his first season and he was even younger than Hojlund now iirc. Second season (current Hojlund age) he has like around 1 goal per 2 games ratio for us in the leagueSurely you didn't see him at the time to have this bizarre view? Rooney was a sure thing, there was no doubt, hence the unbelievable excitement around him before and when we bought him. He was a man when we he was signed, even if his birth certificate said otherwise. Pure potential
People need to stop bringing him up, its tedious.
Hardly; he was on a continuum of very good to excellent for about eight years. Once his level dropped, it dropped for good and he fell off a cliff.Rooney was so so underrated here.
100m if he's injured and out of action for 8 months or something. Dude was Mbappe before Mbappe. Just happened to be part of a shite international setup and lost out on that front.This. Rooney's hype was like Bellingham on roids. He was hyped like the second coming of Christ destined to bring the NT back to glory. If there was another Rooney like player right now he wouldnt sell for under 100m at the cheapest. Im not taking anything from Hojlund here but when both are at the same age and stage of their career Hojlund isnt fit to lace Rooney's boot. This is just speaking objectively. Rooney was United top scorer during his first season and he was even younger than Hojlund now iirc. Second season (current Hojlund age) he has like around 1 goal per 2 games ratio for us in the league
If a 20 year old who has never played in the EPL scores 10 goals in his first season, that's pretty good.If your 80 mil worth, first choice striker, scores 10 goals in a season then it is not success by any means.
He was probably top 3 best player in our squad when we bought him. He was that good.People forget that Rooney cost a bomb at the time as well. We payed for pure potential
Or that the team he’s now in isn’t firing…or that in terms of a league title this season…it’s already over bar the shouting…If a 20 year old who has never played in the EPL scores 10 goals in his first season, that's pretty good.
It's not his fault that, as usual, we overpaid for a player by quite a bit.
Even we are not THAT stupid to buy young player with serious injury.When do we start wondering if the rumours are true that his back injury is a lot more severe than we are being told?
I dunno, it sounded serious enoughWhen do we start wondering if the rumours are true that his back injury is a lot more severe than we are being told?
It will not be good for the club though. Our result this season will suffer because of it. Unless Martial finally steps up.If a 20 year old who has never played in the EPL scores 10 goals in his first season, that's pretty good.
It's not his fault that, as usual, we overpaid for a player by quite a bit.
When we see any sort of substance to those rumours.When do we start wondering if the rumours are true that his back injury is a lot more severe than we are being told?
What‽ He was better (by way of consistency) than Ronaldo at the time. He was a sure thing and nobody was suggesting otherwise.People forget that Rooney cost a bomb at the time as well. We payed for pure potential
Looked like the best player at the Euros before getting injured, was a pretty fecking sure thing was Rooney.People forget that Rooney cost a bomb at the time as well. We payed for pure potential
Better than what we had last season with Weghorst. The right move now would be to buy another striker considering we're letting go of Greenwood.It will not be good for the club though. Our result this season will suffer because of it. Unless Martial finally steps up.
Rooney had also shown at Everton how amazing he was already at 16. He was expensive for a reason.Rooney was so so underrated here.
What's the substance of these rumours? Doubt even this club, and their acquiescence to ETH's player choices even in the face of advice otherwise, would seriously follow through with a 70m transfer if there was a serious back issue affecting mobility long-term...When do we start wondering if the rumours are true that his back injury is a lot more severe than we are being told?
Tweet
— Twitter API (@user) date
Can't argue with that.It's football, I'd be happy the team to perform well, I don't think it merits to put such expectations you're spoiling any pleasure out of it. But that's just me.
Excited for Hojlund start, can't expect he'll be an absolute trailblazer of a striker just yet.
Paid*People forget that Rooney cost a bomb at the time as well. We payed for pure potential
Ups sorryPaid*
A few times the ball was put into the box and both Rashford and Martial were on their heels, that's where I think we will mainly see the difference with having Rasmus in the team.Keep the chance creation up and he will fill his boots in this team
He is currently training with the team according to the club’s mail. Hopefully we see him as substitute next match.If not already, when's he back in full training?
Started Friday. Ten Hag wants him to do a full week then hopefully he’ll be involved for the Arsenal game.If not already, when's he back in full training?
No, the official website has him with no numberRead on the interwebs Hojlund will start Sunday @ Emirates. Is this for real?
Does he even have a number? (Garnacho took #17).