How long a window of opportuntiy do you reckon he has left? 2 more years to buck up before he is too old or missed out on the necessary experiences?
Ravel Morrison
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Are you suggesting he hasn't acted the twat and thrown away chances given to him? Maybe we're thinking of different footballers.
Trouble is, football's 11 a side and Ravel's not Ronaldo I with a World Cup under his belt, he's a 19 year old who's done nothing. He has teammates, that need to be on his side, and the manager needs their respect, even if he can't get Ravel's. Lee Clark may be a nob head, but he's also manager of the club that's given Morrison a loan deal.
Ravel might "know" he's so much better than his teammates that he doesn't need to bother training, but we also know that actual top flight talents don't do that. Ronaldo, Messi, Cantona, even George Best (at Ravel's age) never took their abilities for granted - they trained as hard as their teammates, or harder.
It's hard to see what can turn it around, and yes he's probably only got a couple of years to do it. He couldn't do it at United, or West Ham and now apparently he can't do it at Birmingham.
Maybe a move abroad, Spain perhaps, would help him. Or not.
It would be a shock if he turned it around now. Anyone who is stupid enough to throw chances away with 3 top clubs (albeit on a downward trajectory already) isn't a good bet for a turnaround.
He will play 3rd league football soon and live off social care
His career was effectively over the moment he left Old Trafford. He's not interested in grinding away in the Championship. Anyone who knows anything about him could have told Lee Clark that beforehand.
It was always going to be all or nothing with him. Nothing it is.
It was always going to be all or nothing with him. Nothing it is.
I actually know what's gone on, and yes he's thrown away his chances. Did you not read my initial post that you quoted? Where I said he's 'pissing away his talent'?
The difference, for me, is that I think it's a shame that he can't grow up and act professionally, for him more than anyone, whereas you think it more appropriate to call him names as if he's somehow harmed you by failing to turn himself around.
This is quite possibly the best rumor I've ever heard 
He isn't at anything remotely close to £60k a week.
Either way he's on a mint. If you look at his twitter he posted his Range Rover Evoque. He'll easy be on 10-15k I think, which is way too much, too young especially for a wannabe gangstar like him.
I would very much doubt he's on even that much.
It's a damn shame really. He has everything talent wise to become a star but unfortunately doesn't seem to have a brain. He is still only 19 and there is every chance that he could put it together. I want him to succeed, you don't want to see talent like that go down the gutter. Hopefully, he would.
Can't post about Ravel without this gif.
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Can't post about Ravel without this gif.
This is related, so hopefully won't earn me a warning or an infraction.
I think it's a shame too. A huge shame. And it saddens me to see someone who could have been a star here on the downward path he's on. That doesn't mean he isn't a twat though. And no, I don't think he's a twat because he's harmed me in some way, I think he's a twat because he's done much worse, he's harmed himself and his chances of making something of himself. In 10 years time, when he's matured and realised exactly what he's done he'll look back and realise himself that yes, he's been a twat.
The new Michael Johnson.
"In August, Morrison was sent home from West Ham’s pre-season tour for emergency dental treatment because his teeth were in such poor condition that up to seven had to be removed."
You and I obviously have very different views on what makes a person a twat.
Maybe so. Can we agree that he's a bit of a moron?
As for twat, it's used to refer to someone who is a fool, and that's the meaning I was using. Rather than a ladies naughty area.
There isnt every chance at all. Hes a damaged human being, for whatever reasons. People look at the football part, his problem is unrelated to football at all, and he will never, ever , do well at football or anything else until whatever part of his mind thats broken gets fixed.
Its not a case of 'pulling himself together' or such, hes damaged, he needs proper help, the footballing community isnt one to acknowledge that sort of weakness, as the speedy tragedy revealed, so the chance of him getting what he needs in that environment is very low.
|Hes lucky in the sense he is earning the money to pay for what he needs, hes unlucky in that hes in an environment that will refuse to accept he needs that help.
I wonder where that poster who said Fergie was old, out of touch and mismanaged Morrison is now? Three managers in quick succession have gotten tired of him. One of them is arguably the best manager of all time. And the other two are Lee Clark and Fergie.
Morrison is a tragedy in the making, they'll be making documentaries about the guy in ten years and show them at schools unless he gets his issues sorted. It's very sad indeed. It seems like the only solution is the get him sectioned, or maybe Robbin Williams has to step in like he did in Good Will Hunting.
I kind of agree and disagree.
United, like most clubs, has a psychologist and, like most clubs, will use psychiatrists and specialist help for players who are in trouble. Granted, Morrison's problems aren't the traditional drink, gambling, women problems but the mental health professionals around the clubs will have recognised his problems. Unfortunately Morrison has to recognise them as well. It's not an unsupportive football environment he's up against, it's deeper than that.
That whole story with West Ham and teeth sums it up for me. Daily access to club doctors, regular medical checkups and somehow he manages to dodge the dentist until he's in agony? He´s damaged alright, but if he can't ask for help with his teeth, he's not going to accept it fr his head.
You dont class someone who assaults his mother, destroys other peoples property, tries to intimidate ad witness and generally acts like scum as a twat?
Good to know.
The guy seems a complete spacker. Glorified Jermaine Pennant, though Pennant made a career for himself at the top level at some capacity (getting a move to Liverpool etc.), without letting his talent go to complete waste. Talent without attitude is completely worthless.
I don't disagree with you however there are examples of players in American sports with questionable backgrounds that have turned it around. I don't know what Ravel's support system is but at his age that is very important. Someone needs to show him what he has, what he could have and what he could end up with if he doesn't put his head in the right place. At 19, age is still on his side and he has every chance to get things in order. A couple of years from now could be a different story altogether.
@Brophs.He's a twat.
A-1 twat.
Even if he may be more talented,a lot of more less talented people deserve more than the cnut.
Even if he may be more talented,a lot of more less talented people deserve more than the cnut.
For a while it was a popular thing to point out how Fergie was "losing" promising young players and Morrison was one of the key examples. Doubt you will see many mention him as "one who got away" anymore.
His career is about to go down the shitter, and he only has himself to blame, the dumb cnut.
Pissing on his chips is one thing but pissing on a man's fish is well out of order.This is quite possibly the best rumor I've ever heard
From what i heard a few weeks back just after Morrison joined us Lee clarke had a BBQ at his house and invited a few players an Morrison was supposed to have took a wee jimmy riddle in his fish pond
Yes, yes you can.
The massive massive twat.
Wannabe gangster, White 4x4 driving, Bobby big bollocks before I've ever done anything little wankstain.
I always felt that it would have been wise of Ferguson to send him on loan abroad, away from his mates in England. Maybe to the Bundesliga.
He'd have tried to invade Poland or something.
First things first.
Let's get him brushing and flossing.
Baby steps.
Let's get him brushing and flossing.
Baby steps.
I dont understand the people on here who want to see him succeed really. Hes a massive bellend. Why do you want such an individual to succeed at becoming a rich and famous footballer? I hope he fails miserably, because he seems to be a terrible person who doesnt deserve to make it.
The distance between failed artist and failed footballer isn't necessarily that long.
'Seems' is the key word. Obviously everyone in life is judged by their actions and the actions we see from Ravel paint a negative picture. What is also obvious is that the Football pitch is the safest place for him, on the pitch there is no hint of prima donna, he always looks to get others involved and he works hard. I personally wish the boy every success because I know he has a wonderful talent which would also keep him safer as a person, if everyone else wishes he fecks up and increases his chances of falling into a life of crime then it's up to them. That's the way he's headed and I don't want him to head that way, he has a talent and I want him to fulfil it.