My colleague next to me is piping up,
"What other team is scoring 9 goals in 2 games?"
"What other team is scoring 9 goals in 2 games?"
RAWK Goes Into Meltdown (2012/2013)
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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Comment on Daily Mail website:
My point is - If Kenny spent £110 million on buying players and got back £88 million selling players. He only spent £22 million. Which means on average he bought suarez for £3.6 million. henderson for £3.6, downing for £3.6 million, Carroll for £3.6 million, Adam for £3.6 million. etc.Thats good business.
- Mike Dinsdale , Wirral, United Kingdom, 04/3/2013 16:58
Good old Mike - doesn't hurt as much if you think of it mathematically.
My point is - If Kenny spent £110 million on buying players and got back £88 million selling players. He only spent £22 million. Which means on average he bought suarez for £3.6 million. henderson for £3.6, downing for £3.6 million, Carroll for £3.6 million, Adam for £3.6 million. etc.Thats good business.
- Mike Dinsdale , Wirral, United Kingdom, 04/3/2013 16:58
Good old Mike - doesn't hurt as much if you think of it mathematically.
Why wouldn't he adjust that 22 million for the players sale price? Even for crank math, that's shoddy work.
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My point is - If Kenny spent £110 million on buying players and got back £88 million selling players. He only spent £22 million. Which means on average he bought suarez for £3.6 million. henderson for £3.6, downing for £3.6 million, Carroll for £3.6 million, Adam for £3.6 million. etc.Thats good business.
- Mike Dinsdale , Wirral, United Kingdom, 04/3/2013 16:58
Good old Mike - doesn't hurt as much if you think of it mathematically.
That's good business
I sold my car for 5000 quid and bought another, shit car for 8000. Therefore I only spent 3000 quid on this fecking shit car, pretty good business.
because Mike is a retard.
But Kenny sold Torres for £50m of that total....
Pefect timing, has it been posted already? I feel a Suarez sale coming on
Liverpool debt rises to $130M
March 4, 2013
By Associated Press
LIVERPOOL, England -- Liverpool's debt rose by a third to more than $130 million after spending on players who have failed to re-establish the club as a power in England or Europe.
Liverpool is seventh in the Premier League and no closer to returning to the lucrative Champions League it last played in during the 2009-10 season.
Accounts released Monday showed that Liverpool's debt rose to 87.2 million pounds (about $131 million) between Aug. 1, 2011 and May 31, 2012.
Liverpool managing director Ian Ayre says "net debt comes largely as a result of our activity around player trading."
Liverpool reported a loss of 40.5 million pounds (about $61 million) in the accounts covering a 10-month period, in line with the losses in the previous full financial year.
http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1362676/liverpool-debt-rises-to-$130m-as-team-struggles-?cc=5901
Liverpool debt rises to $130M
March 4, 2013
By Associated Press
LIVERPOOL, England -- Liverpool's debt rose by a third to more than $130 million after spending on players who have failed to re-establish the club as a power in England or Europe.
Liverpool is seventh in the Premier League and no closer to returning to the lucrative Champions League it last played in during the 2009-10 season.
Accounts released Monday showed that Liverpool's debt rose to 87.2 million pounds (about $131 million) between Aug. 1, 2011 and May 31, 2012.
Liverpool managing director Ian Ayre says "net debt comes largely as a result of our activity around player trading."
Liverpool reported a loss of 40.5 million pounds (about $61 million) in the accounts covering a 10-month period, in line with the losses in the previous full financial year.
http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1362676/liverpool-debt-rises-to-$130m-as-team-struggles-?cc=5901
Surely the way back from debt is through success on the pitch and not selling your only hope of getting that?
As if the Suarez/Rooney debate was bad enough I had one of my followers on twitter saying to me today that Suarez is not only better than Rooney but the best striker in the league!
Was just having a look for a thread on the debt and I reached page 2 of the forum to find that half of the threads were locked, its insane. This is how nazi germany started...
http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?board=2.40
http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?board=2.40
The legacy of KKK, a huge pile of debt and shit players they may never get rid of.
If you're in debt, not in the Champions League, and you have players who should be playing in the CL, the chances are you will have to sell them.
Though I imagine they'll ship out others this summer ahead of Suarez, who will be last resort.
The problem is, they have few saleable assets that they wouldn't take a massive loss on. Best candidates are Reina, Skrtel and Agger I'd imagine.
Wrong thread for this, but completely valid opinion really
Wuw.. That LS v WR thread. Can a lurker go there and tell them all that he's United's 4th top goal scorer of all time (with a very very realistic chance of finishing top when and if he leaves) and the argument of 'not lived up to hype' is probably one of the worst in the entire history of arguments.
This opinion is as typical of the caf's eccentricities as those above are of RAWK's. This forum suffers from the footballing equivalent of middle-class guilt.
However you're right, it's not the place, so I won't actually offer the counter-argument.
Why is everyone a c*nt on there? There's just pages littered with people writing "c*nt".
I don't see why someone thinking Suarez is better than Rooney is such a ridiculous opinion.
You should have a look in Bluemoon's threads about us. They're pretty much incapable of mentioning anyone associated with United without calling them cnuts, twats or whatever they might come up with. It's a bit sad really.
It's not ridiculous at all. In my opinion it's wrong, though it's a tight thing. The 'best striker in the league argument' is more comfortably wrong.
But that wasn't really what I was talking about so much as the attitudes on the two forums. Can you imagine anyone on RAWK ever even coming close to admitting the reverse, which objectively is just as reasonable an opinion?
I think a lot of people would say Suarez is better than Rooney, it's not just a RAWK thing.
Christ almighty. Someone wrest the bong from his clutches.
Yes but people who say that only judge a player on one season, Rooney has been class since he was 18, Suarez has only really done it for 12-18 months.
Those people you refer to were probably the one's jizzing themselves over the ox last season.
They're different types of players. Suarez is a much better dribbler with great close control and interplay. There aren't too many more dangerous players when inside the box than Suarez. Rooney is more intelligent and has a better passing range and will have more of an effect on the overall game. Their finishing is probably pretty even.
Overall Rooney is the better player but as strikers it's too close for me to call.
Overall Rooney is the better player but as strikers it's too close for me to call.
True, but I've also seen the argument made (even on this site, I think) that Rooney is a player in decline. If that was true ( and I'm not saying it is) then Suarez could very well become a better player than Rooney. If we accept that Suarez has been better than Rooney this season then it's not totally unreasonable to argue he'll continue to be better than Rooney over coming seasons. I'm not actually saying he is better, just that it's debateable.
I think I agree with all of this post tbh.
Outside of this forum most people would agree that Suarez is the better player, I would certainly swap him for Rooney.
It won't surprise me if several of the mods live in a mental institution, they have been warded since the Premier League started
As for this post:
Rooneys workrate is clearly better.
Suarez just edges it on runs.
As for "can probably take a great penatly" seriously? I mean I reckon Ben Amos could probably be lethal from the spot.
On corners Rooneys delivery is much better than Suarez's as is his range of passing.
His goal return is better but I'd be willing to bet conversion rate is below Rooneys. Also Rooney is playing in a team with welbeck, hernandez and rvp competing for places/goals.
Rooneys workrate is clearly better.
Suarez just edges it on runs.
As for "can probably take a great penatly" seriously? I mean I reckon Ben Amos could probably be lethal from the spot.
On corners Rooneys delivery is much better than Suarez's as is his range of passing.
Not really. Suarez has scored 21 league goals in his last 27 starts. Wayne Rooney in his last 27 has scored 20. And only one of those players actually plays as a number nine most of the time.
Suarez is only a better goalscorer if you take it from this season alone, and even then it's marginal, with Rooney on just under .7 goals per start this year and Suarez on .78, and I don't suppose I need to tell you which of them has taken 64 shots and which has taken 142.
You can make an argument that Suarez is better, but you can't use goals to make it.
One year ago how many people were saying Suarez was better then Rooney? I bet not many. He has outperformed him this season and it may the case that Suarez goes on to be better, but it is still too early to say he is now a better player.
I don't know why some of you are so worked up with this Suarez > Rooney comparison from Rawk. Those Rawkbola sufferers have nothing else better to do (or nothing else better to look forward to) than to come up with "My Dad is better than your Dad" threads. Sooner or later we will have a Rawk thread "Suarez > Ronaldo" or "Suarez is a better racist than Terry".
At the end of the day Suarez is a fantastic player who might score more goals and win the golden boot, but personal achievements mean naught when your goals don't bring silverware (or even 4th spot trophy) to your club. It'll end up being only a personal achievement. I'd rather have a team of winners contributing from all angles than a team who relies only on 1 or 2 players and end up winning nothing at the end of the season.
At the end of the day Suarez is a fantastic player who might score more goals and win the golden boot, but personal achievements mean naught when your goals don't bring silverware (or even 4th spot trophy) to your club. It'll end up being only a personal achievement. I'd rather have a team of winners contributing from all angles than a team who relies only on 1 or 2 players and end up winning nothing at the end of the season.
One year ago Wayne Rooney was well on his way to being only the second player in Premier League history to pass the 25 goals mark* more than once. Meanwhile Suarez was taking a break from a mediocre season because he'd been banned for doing a racism. To suggest Suarez might be a better player requires an absurd level of short-termism that should be beneath even football fans.
*In a 38 game season
*In a 38 game season
lol
Ask any manager in world football who they would take if they were given the choice and 100% of them would answer Rooney.
Except Brenton, whose decision you'd never get to hear as you'd have died from platitude overdose before he announced it.
100% would decline to even answer such a silly question. Brenton too, but he'd probably be prolix about it, I agree.
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