Should have gotten him two years ago. Like, when Mourinho came in and talked about only buying specialists. Before two years of Mata as RW.
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Right Winger... Who do we go for?
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I think we should be one of, I'm sure many clubs taking a serious look at Florian Thauvin from Marseille. 25 years old, a hell of a season and some unfinished business in the premier league after a short Newcastle spell where he barely got any games.
Take a look at this :
And of course theres a highlights video. Just a video, but it does show several things that would be important like being able to go inside or outside and cross with his right foot as well as his favoured left foot. A complete attacking player who has been playing right wing all season and show he's the kind of danger man we want from our right side to balance out the left.
A few more notes, Thauvin had the 3rd most shots in Ligue 1 behind Neymar and Balotelli. He has scored 3 or more goals than the other two players. Mind you he has played more games this season, he has started 34 games out of Marseille's 37 games in the league this season showing he's fit and available all the time.
If any player out there has shown the potential to be a realistic signing we could make that might be able to make a big impact in attack like Salah did for Liverpool this season, this seems like the guy.
Wow, looks very comfortable with both legs. Thanks for sharing
Mata does not fit in at all anymore. Lingard isn't the best in RW. He is a better no.10. I don't see us getting Mahrez now but he would make a massive difference.
We have Rashford, Martial and now Sanchez all fighting for a LW position. Sanchez is capable of playing on the right but Mourinho doesn't want to use him there.
Yeah, he’s been the best in the league in that position for 3 seasons - Ferguson would have kidknapped him. Despite being right footed, he holds width well and can be destructive on the outside rather than exclusively inverting.
He’s excelled in a counter-attacking team too; perfectly adept at playing Joseball.
Will likely end up at City in the absence of other elite interest, but being a catalyst at Old Trafford would surely appeal more than being one of many expensively stockpiled attacking talents at Abu Dhabi FC.
Has a play style like Robben, with a face like Lampard. Chelsea bound?
Seriously. Good suggestion (and write up) on the player I wasn't aware of. This is the type of player we should be looking for. Skillful, pacey, seems like not afraid of getting stuck in, and still young. It's just exciting watching him dribbling that right wing.
It’s too logical to happen unfortunately.
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Still would go for Pulisic. Got the potential, played in Bundes, good move marketing wise too.
Lucas Vasquez anybody? Hard working and provides width. Has good crossing ability and can score a few. If Madrid plan to offload him, he's worth a punt.
Mahrez is good option, but we don't need good anymore, we need something special on the right, a game changer if we want to challenge for the title.
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Any one of these guys would be great:
- Mahrez
- Dybala
- Costa
- Vasquez
- Thauvin
- Malcom
Andddd we sign Kluivert
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All aboard in the Thauvin train!!
1. Dybala
2. Thauvin
3. Costa
4. Bale
5. Willian
2. Thauvin
3. Costa
4. Bale
5. Willian
It makes too much sense. Even today another goal and assist. His output in a poor Leicester team is fantastic. He can dribble, beat defenders for fun and has top link up play. Can create and score. But he'll probably go to a City team already stacked with wingers and we will still be lining up with Mata and Lingard as wide players. Much better than signing Bale or Willian without a doubt.
Leading Leicester to a title and a fantastic output this season in a mid table team is as good as it gets.
I personally would want Coman, with Mahrez a close second. Willian will do but is a short-term solution. Pulisic is overrated IMO, looks pretty limited.
I'd have him onboard. Jose would probably like him too. Industrious and talented.
I wonder if there is any chance of James style loan with Bale?
Surely Madrid will struggle to find a team to cough up the full cash to sign him with his injury record and value.
Surely Madrid will struggle to find a team to cough up the full cash to sign him with his injury record and value.
Could Thauvin be the next Salah?
Top talent ready to step up to the next level, had a unsuccessful spell in the league when he was younger like Salah did as well.
Top talent ready to step up to the next level, had a unsuccessful spell in the league when he was younger like Salah did as well.
Mahrez would be an excellent signing
This. Fantastic player, who is ready to make the step up.
Mahrez, surely. Maybe Thauvin, but I am concerned by how he didn't do so well in the PL before. Was that last season or the one before? It is difficult to determine how well he has developed since that time.
I watched a lot of Thauvin and Marseille this season and i can say that he is a top player, but only under the right conditions and management. He can be very enigmatic at times and tends to drift out of matches a lot then popping with a crucial goal out of nowhere which is fine in Ligue 1 but in england he won't have many chances to save his ok performances. As much as i like him i think he would struggle immensely under Mourinho and i feel he is better suited for the Serie A with a team like Napoli. Convinced He will stay at OM for another season as they have been building a good project since Frank Mc Court took over the club.
For me it’s got to be Willian For the following reasons
We’re at a point now where we need to win a league again quickly to prove we’re still relevant so tried and tested senior players who handle pressure and still turn up week in week out when things aren’t going well are crucial , id rather have Willian playing at a 8/9 out of 10 every week than a younger flair player playing at 5 with the occasional 9 and be happy just cos there young
Secondly willian offers something we’ve not had for quite a while now imo and that’s a dead ball expert , lost count of how many of our corners don’t even beat the first man
Worked with Jose before so won’t need to adapt to much and was Chelsea’s best player in Jose’s worst season
Right footed so more likely to stick to his wing than a left footer or a winger that always looks to cut inside into space , I’d love a right footed winger putting in good balls to lukaku
And finally the fact Willian works so hard for the team means a new rb although needed wouldn’t be a major priority over other crucial areas of the team
We’re at a point now where we need to win a league again quickly to prove we’re still relevant so tried and tested senior players who handle pressure and still turn up week in week out when things aren’t going well are crucial , id rather have Willian playing at a 8/9 out of 10 every week than a younger flair player playing at 5 with the occasional 9 and be happy just cos there young
Secondly willian offers something we’ve not had for quite a while now imo and that’s a dead ball expert , lost count of how many of our corners don’t even beat the first man
Worked with Jose before so won’t need to adapt to much and was Chelsea’s best player in Jose’s worst season
Right footed so more likely to stick to his wing than a left footer or a winger that always looks to cut inside into space , I’d love a right footed winger putting in good balls to lukaku
And finally the fact Willian works so hard for the team means a new rb although needed wouldn’t be a major priority over other crucial areas of the team
In the last 3 seasons Premier League seasons
Willian : 19 goals 16 assists
Mahrez : 35 goals 24 assists
It's not even remotely close, Mahrez is a much better player than Willian, he's also 2 years and half younger and put up these statistics in a worse team than Chelsea.
I think the Willian hype needs to stop, the guy had a great month where he displayed good performances againt us and Barcelona but he's not ever going to reach the numbers we need as a winger to challenge Man City.
Willian : 19 goals 16 assists
Mahrez : 35 goals 24 assists
It's not even remotely close, Mahrez is a much better player than Willian, he's also 2 years and half younger and put up these statistics in a worse team than Chelsea.
I think the Willian hype needs to stop, the guy had a great month where he displayed good performances againt us and Barcelona but he's not ever going to reach the numbers we need as a winger to challenge Man City.
I wish we could sign Isco and start him on the right. He was very good for Madrid down the flank last year. With an electric right back behind him, it would be wonderful. And I don't think it is impossible to pull off. He might be available.
Mikel Oyarzabal finished up the season with 12 goals and 7 assists. Playing the majority of games on the left, but operated almost as much on the right. He can move through the middle well too, he’s a versatile lad and a good age to mould into a great player. Not to mention got quite a bit of composure on the ball, obviously that may not translate at a bigger club, but worth noting. Sociedad have had a very inconsistent season, so may only want to sell one of the two out of him and Odriozola, but money talks.
On the other hand, these are just the PL numbers and Mahrez has played more minutes than Willian. Stats per 90 minutes seem more conclusive for me. When taking the actual time on the pitch in all competitions, Willian is ahead of Mahrez for the last three years, if I'm not mistaken.
@JPRouve How highly do you rate him and his overall talent? A quick look says he's got great goals and assists stat and nice YouTube videos, along with being one of the four finalists for Ligue 1 POTY this season.
Thauvin showed lots of promises early on but the move to Marseille and Newcastle derailed him, now he is showing his talent again. I don't rate him as an athlete and while he has good overall technique and movement, it is not at a level where it can compensate for his lack of agility, speed and power. I don't know if people remember him but he reminds me Néné when he was at his peak, around 2010.
Just get Mahrez ffs, don't let City have him.
With such neverending drought on the right wing I would be absolutely delighted with anyone from players mentioned in this thread.
Thauvin got superb left leg on him. Would definitely help in improving.
Thauvin got superb left leg on him. Would definitely help in improving.
Now with only two years in contract he shouldn't be excessively expensive. Fred and Mahrez would be a great summer steal.
ACtually not. I remember hearing for a while now that he is a bit of a prima-donna in his own head, a bit like Ben Arfa... but that was back when he was signed by Lille only to not play a game for them because of Marseilles's interest... I'd expect him to be more interested in using us as a stepping-stone for Real/Barca rather than be committed to our cause.
That said this issue that stuck in my mind was over 5 years ago, maybe he has matured...
Admittedly, I don't know much about him. But 5 years is a long time for young player development. Just look at Salah.
I’d love to sign Mahrez but I reckon Jose prefers Willian instead.
Thauvin is an intriguing wide attacker and has been on fire this season (kinda recent Tweet cap.):
However, from semi-extended viewing - he seems to lack the dynamism and change of direction of a Ribéry, or even developing talents like Ünder/Pulisić/Guedes - who're more nimble and evasive (in Guedes' specific case - boasting incredible straight-line speed), albeit less developed than Thauvin and not as productive at this moment in time. That could be a bit of a concern in wider positions in the Premier League because you ideally need someone who can be more disruptive (especially for this United team because Alexis is going to decline physically in the coming seasons), even though he's clearly a significant contributor in Marseille's attack with Payet, and seems to play with a great deal of poise. More suited to the Serie A I reckon, maybe Juventus if Dybala leaves and they maintain the 4-3-3 structure that has served them well in recent months. Costa + Bernardeschi + Thauvin would be a good set of attackers, come to think of it.
However, from semi-extended viewing - he seems to lack the dynamism and change of direction of a Ribéry, or even developing talents like Ünder/Pulisić/Guedes - who're more nimble and evasive (in Guedes' specific case - boasting incredible straight-line speed), albeit less developed than Thauvin and not as productive at this moment in time. That could be a bit of a concern in wider positions in the Premier League because you ideally need someone who can be more disruptive (especially for this United team because Alexis is going to decline physically in the coming seasons), even though he's clearly a significant contributor in Marseille's attack with Payet, and seems to play with a great deal of poise. More suited to the Serie A I reckon, maybe Juventus if Dybala leaves and they maintain the 4-3-3 structure that has served them well in recent months. Costa + Bernardeschi + Thauvin would be a good set of attackers, come to think of it.
I have a theory: City is just pretending they want certain players only to force United to sign them.
Malcom at United would be a fans favourite i reckon. We should go for him although i feel Mourinho isn't prepare to risk time nurturing potential, so he is more likely to go for Willian or Bale.
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For sure people evolve at their own rate, no doubt he is talented though... What stood out in the few games I caught of Marseille, was his work rate, seems to be a willing runner... Maybe I now have a reason to catch the Europa league final
I honestly cant see how Jose would want Willian. No top 6 teams struggle to score like we do and no quality attacker fails to score or assist like Willian. Willian should be way down our lits. Never even scored 10 pl goals.....
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