Nope, Does that mean Lampard and Gerrard were better than Scholes? as they had far far more individual recognition.
Having watched the 2 players for their entire time here, ive made my own decision.
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Having watched the 2 players for their entire time here, ive made my own decision.
You have to take these awards with a pinch of salt at times.
David Ginola won it in 98-99, the year we had numerous players doing amazing things in our treble.
Whatever happened to that 'Rio Signs' thread from Rams?
Pinch of salt yes, but winning it twice isn't blind luck. And even then, who would anyone argue was more deserving than Vidic in 08/09 and 10/11? Certainly not Rio, and would Rio at any point have been more deserving than the actual winner in any season during his career?
Rio was far more pleasing to the eye with his elegant passing, and he was without question a brilliant footballer -- part of England's "Golden Generation" -- but Ferguson knew who was the superior central defender. We would be wise to agree with Ferguson when it came to the quality of his players.
As for Ferguson's decision-making when it came to his successor, well, his decision-making left a lot to be desired.
Neville has clearly called Ronaldo out and urged the club to cut ties with him
That’s a bridge too far for me at this very moment, but it’s a reasonable demand. The problem with cutting Ronaldo loose right now is that have no one on the squad to take his place. Martial has been unmasked as the permacrock lovechild of Saha and Jones, and Rashford just isn’t a striker.
Let’s bring in Gapko in January and at the same time find a Saudi club willing to accept Ronaldo’s financial requirements.
I get that, I'm basically making the point that Neville has actually not been biased in favour of his former mate
Another example of ex legends living in the past, looking to Ronaldo to help secure the future of this club. Ronaldo is yesterdays man and ETH is doing the right thing by respecting but moving away from the eulogising of our past. We must move forwards and the like of Keane, Rio, Scholes, Ronaldo and even SAF need to remain a fond part of our past, they are not part of our future.
Rio was a great defender but he isn't any good at this talking malarchy.
Rio in 07/08 was THE best season ive ever seen from a Defender in a united shirt. He was also comfortably better for about 8 years prior to those seasons.
goes both ways.
Vidic was actually a lot more pleasing on the eye, as he was a warrior and people tend to gravitate for those sorts of players. They were both the 2 best CB's in the premier league. Period.
Why don't these pro ronaldo ex united players fail to highlight 2 things.
1 being that no big club wanted to touch ronaldo this summer and the same goes for the previous summer as well except for us after buying the rubbish that man City were going to sign him.
2. Martial is the real miss and his stats prove that this season despite playing less this season than the oh so glorious ronaldo
1 being that no big club wanted to touch ronaldo this summer and the same goes for the previous summer as well except for us after buying the rubbish that man City were going to sign him.
2. Martial is the real miss and his stats prove that this season despite playing less this season than the oh so glorious ronaldo
Probably not the thread for this, but Gakpo doesn't play as a striker. His future might be at striker, but don't think its the best signing for January where you want someone to come in and perform straight away.
If he's going to have a change of role, much better for him to have a pre-season with the team and learn the demands of the role and EtH's tactical plan.
If a striker comes in January, I'd rather a short-term punt on some random than making a LW come in and play him at striker. We have 3 LWs in the team that currently struggle at striker, ridiculous to add one more.
Rashford, Elantra and?
I don't really think that means as much as you think it does.
Did Fergie say Vidic was better than Rio?
How does Gakpo (I assume you meant) help with the centre forward spot?
The Daewoo Elantra, dependable yet uninspiring family hatchback
Could arguably say both Ronaldo and Martial.
By scoring goals, providing assists and delivering excellent holdup play.
These are qualities that Martial has in him, for a variety of reasons we haven’t seen from him for several years except in pre-season play three months ago and for something Iike 45 or 60 minutes in competitive play this season.
Arguably neither, as both have been primarily CFs for a quite a while now and both are better up top than LW
The guy who's probably started there most in Jadon Sancho?
He's never played as a striker or was considered to be a LW/CF.
So to say he's
...seems a bit off. So I think he means someone else
Ronaldo's Minutes Played - Last 7 Games
Omonia - played 90 mins
Everton - played 60 mins
Omonia - played 90 mins
Newcastle - played 72 mins
Spurs - refused to play
Chelsea - punished for being a brat
Sheriff Tiraspol - played 90 mins
If only EtH would play Ronaldo instead of disrespecting him!
Omonia - played 90 mins
Everton - played 60 mins
Omonia - played 90 mins
Newcastle - played 72 mins
Spurs - refused to play
Chelsea - punished for being a brat
Sheriff Tiraspol - played 90 mins
If only EtH would play Ronaldo instead of disrespecting him!
Ah... Gotcha
This. Being great as a player does not entitle him to meaningful insight.
In the end these guys need to see how easy mediocrity is and how tough the job was. Made tougher by a player acting like a child in the twilight of his great career.
The bullshit spouted by our ex players regarding that overgrown man child is starting to get in my nerves to be fair.
I can tell you Paul Scholes, Ryan Giggs, David Beckham & Roy Keane never won it.
Should tell you plenty about how much that means.
Giggs won PFA POY in 2009 and he wasn’t even the best player that season.
We weren’t talking about the PFA award, but your Giggs point is more proof of how little these kind of awards really mean.
In an upcoming book about the Messi/Ronaldo rivalry, it's revealed that a fanboy by the name of Rio Ferdinand made a 3am phone call to convince his hero to reject a move to Manchester City in favour of a return to Manchester United.
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You mean his friend who admires him. Feckin fanboy shite, they're friends, Rio isn't a nobody who's attached himself to Cristiano.
Love Rio, but don't agree with him at all. We will see how long Ronaldo is happy at his new club. Yea what a adventure. Ok Rio.
"Rio told Vibe with FIVE: ‘I’m pleased for him that he’s finally happy. For any footballer whatever level you’re playing in, happiness and being happy in the environment you’re playing in is one of the most important things.
‘He hasn’t been happy for a while so I’m pleased he’s on the verge of finding that happiness, albeit in a country that not many people expected him to go to.
‘But what a prospect that is, what an adventure that is for him to go to Saudi to go and play in a brand new league, a competitive league over there by the way."
https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro....tiano-ronaldo-al-nassr-transfer-18018202/amp/
"Rio told Vibe with FIVE: ‘I’m pleased for him that he’s finally happy. For any footballer whatever level you’re playing in, happiness and being happy in the environment you’re playing in is one of the most important things.
‘He hasn’t been happy for a while so I’m pleased he’s on the verge of finding that happiness, albeit in a country that not many people expected him to go to.
‘But what a prospect that is, what an adventure that is for him to go to Saudi to go and play in a brand new league, a competitive league over there by the way."
https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro....tiano-ronaldo-al-nassr-transfer-18018202/amp/
Slurp slurp
Are these guys on Ronaldo's payroll or something? Do they have an inferiority complex? Are they sycophants? There must be something going on somewhere.
They're all afraid to be blocked on instagram by him
Bingo. Ronaldo is their teet. Inside knowledge etc. Rio is playing the game.
They are the only Balon d'Or level player they played with. They want to stay on his good books forever.
Maybe he's just friends with the guy. I mean when Ole was manager we saw how some of his friends found it hard to criticise him. Friends, redcafe - shocking concept.
I acutally believe Rio deep inside prefer Messi over Ronaldo. It is actually obvious in my eyes.
I don't think I have seen any pundits praise Messi as much as Rio over the years.
But the "I've-spoked-to-Ronaldo-card"or vlog access to Ronaldo is to valueable to throw away. Especially when you have a youtube-channel.
I don't think I have seen any pundits praise Messi as much as Rio over the years.
But the "I've-spoked-to-Ronaldo-card"or vlog access to Ronaldo is to valueable to throw away. Especially when you have a youtube-channel.