I agree with this post, unfortunately.
Having said that if you lose Song and RVP, then you've again taken three steps back.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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Having said that if you lose Song and RVP, then you've again taken three steps back.
I dont think he cares about winning the Emirates cup to be honest.
I don't think it's the cut of the grass that's the problem, rather the lay of the sod.
I know that, you know that.
But we've got to look a couple of seasons down the line when we hope that won't be the case. Selling RVP to you doesn't help us. I don't really see how us happily selling him to you lot is in any way our most preferable option, even if you offer £5-10m more than anyone else.
Liverpool finished 18 points behind you.Everton 14. Wouldnt you laugh if we said they were your rivals.
Yeah but in a year RVP could leave for free and come to united anyway. So if you're not competing with us now by your own admission and by the time you are we could have signed RVP for free, then I don't really see the issue. Although I suppose that depends on how much RVP really wants to come here.
Yeah I agree with this.
I doubt a "buzzing squad" will change RVP's mind, he hasn't taken this decision that lightly. The only thing that will change his mind is if Arse refuse to sell and are in top spot/right in the mix in Jan, as I said earlier, I can't see this happening, too risky for the money men.
No, I think looking down they're both rivals for 3rd along with Chelsea, Spurs and Newcastle. And looking up I'd say City and United aren't writing off our challenge either.
But then why sell so many players to another team that were clearly overtaking you?
I don't think it's a mental block against United, I think it's a realisation that Arsenal can't afford to strengthen any of the other top teams anymore. It's a much greater media story to say it's "United vs Arsenal" again but, in truth, I think Arsenal would be the same with any English side now. If Chelski, for example, came in with a £10m bid, would they sell him to them? Doubtful.
I'm not sure how it would be any different to Barca expecting us to sell them Rooney or Nani just because they're more serious contenders for the CL than we are. You don't bridge the gap by giving away your best players on the basis that you're not the best right now.
RVP doesn't seem to be forcing a move to you in particular, so if he's free next year, I reckon he'd have loads of offers and it'd be a lot harder for you to get him. Hence why you're trying so hard this summer.
I don't see why you'd want to keep hold of a player who wants away, a player who'd only go on a free few months later. He's not going to be focused, so to me it makes no sense at all. I recall Ronaldo leaving a season later on than he ought to have...sure he scored goals that season, but he looked half arsed. Why risk that? If your man signs a new contract, great forgive and forget...everyone moves on but why run the risk of him running down his contract?
From John Cross(who is Arsenal's PR)
A supreme athlete. Quite a different specimen. I remember watching Drogba before his move to Chelsea and dreaming of us signing him.
Just seen this on another forum. Sorry if it's already been posted or if it's been proven to be fake.
Well if RVP didnt have a preference for United he'd probably already be a Juventus or City player. You'd jump at the chance to offload him to Juve and they're looking at strikers and you seem to like being City's feeder club when you arent being Barcelona's.
In a year's time RVP's options arent going to be too different to now, only he'll be offered more money and he'll be a year older. Plus he could pick up another injury and is unlikely to be top scorer next season with him hating life at Arsenal so those are a few more strings off his bow.
In a year's time RVP's options arent going to be too different to now, only he'll be offered more money and he'll be a year older. Plus he could pick up another injury and is unlikely to be top scorer next season with him hating life at Arsenal so those are a few more strings off his bow.
It's a complex issue - of course I see your point, and we would sell tomorrow if the right offer came in. That right offer would be a decent fee from Spain, but neither of the big two appear interested. Italy's in no condition to spend money like that, Germany isn't big enough for him, so that leaves you and City. It's hardly an ideal situation for us.
United know this, so that's why the bids haven't been that high, leaving us in a very difficult spot.
Fergie is really glowing in health!Just seen this on another forum. Sorry if it's already been posted or if it's been proven to be fake.
What am I supposed to be looking at?Just seen this on another forum. Sorry if it's already been posted or if it's been proven to be fake.
Ah yes, the pic of the player about to sign for a new club still wearing his old club's polo!
John Cross has pretty much covered all bases. He's not really too reliable.
That's never 'shopped not in a million pixels.
How would that go?
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- Ahahahaha. He's ours now, ya jacket wanker. Boom. 1-0 Fergatron.
Hmm I dunno, from all reports he seems to fancy united but who knows. I don't really see their being loads of offers or rather attractive offers as I think he wants to play through the middle and we're the only team who would really line up in such a way that he could play through the middle. At other clubs he'd likely have to play wide.
That's a fake mate. BeardedGenius photoshopped it.Just seen this on another forum. Sorry if it's already been posted or if it's been proven to be fake.
Pete you lot are a very good side, but face facts. In past 7 seasons only once have you finished a season one position below us. Twice actually, considering last season when you got 70 points to our 89. You're always third (at best) or fourth. Right now and in the recent past, a 4th place would be seen as a disaster at United, whereas it's become sort of habbit for your lot.
Fergie knows how history changes hence he won't dismiss your efforts but unless something extraordinary happens in the summer it will most likely be the same, yet again. I'd rather we competed with you than with Chelsea or City, but it seems highly unlikely.
And I wouldn't take CL into account when comparing our teams if I were you.
Bearded Genius is on Twitter and is a photoshop "genius".
The Beardedgenius at the bottom should be clue enough!Just seen this on another forum. Sorry if it's already been posted or if it's been proven to be fake.
City haven't even bid, and Juve offered £7m. He might have a preference for United, but there's no way it's provable.
The latest news comes from John Cross who we both know is a big Arsenal fan. No way he's posting anything about Arsenal even if there's no truth in that. He's still a moron though.
True. But that doesn't solve the issue of a want away player in the final year of his contract. For what it's worth I think you'll sell after an improved United offer. Frankly I'd hate to be in your shoes...but you're between a rock....
Van Persie will stay at Arsenal.
Yeh, we'll sell for £20m, or near enough. Maybe £17m with some generous add-ons based on appearances or something. Although, deep down I still have an inkling he might sign on again.
Or leave, it's so difficult to say...
When will this be over, it really is becoming a bore now...
You have to try and assess where the teams are. In summer 2001 no one gave us much chance having finished 10 pts off the pace in the pack with Leeds, Liverpool and Ipswich. Our problem in recent years has been squad depth rather than first XI, which is now in much better shape. We just need to keep our players and expect a few step ups to give it a go. The differences are more fine than you think.
Maybe and I do hope so. Not that I want you to win the whole thing obviously but it would be much more preferable to compete with you.
This season's transfers do look promising, you seem covered with options for attacking formations. There are question marks concernig your defence. One or two injuries and you look easily penetrable. The keeper's good enough.
Yeah I know it's this way or the other but I'm sure he'll stay. Or rather definitely won't come here.Or leave, it's so difficult to say...
When will this be over, it really is becoming a bore now...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...r-Alex-Ferguson-Arsene-Wenger-hold-talks.html
Daily Mail running with the same story as what John Cross said.
Daily Mail running with the same story as what John Cross said.
In all honesty I feel the same about City. Once Kompany goes, City go. I'd be very interested to see their record without him last season. If Vermaelen could stay fit for a season, and they could keep their better attacking players (Nasri, Fabregas, RVP), they'd be in with an outside chance, and no one would consider them finishing outside the top four.
Unfortunately for them, relying on Vermaelen to be fit all season is becoming similar to us expecting the same of Rio.
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