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And so can Lukaku. You don't become an international footballer without being able to control a football.He can control a football. That much is true.
And so can Lukaku. You don't become an international footballer without being able to control a football.He can control a football. That much is true.
I want to burn this thread and that is the only post I'll make in hereIs it just me who finds the whole something v something threads very unnecessary and childish?
Perspectives. If we had someone like Di Maria (sigh!), Griezmann or Sanchez in our team, along with another goalscoring #10 or RW, I'd pick Morata over Lukaku all day. Because while I expect Morata to score 15 goals only, he will get a lot of assists and he has class movement. Since the goalscoring burden will be shared by the other players, its' a risk well-worth it.I seem to remember not that many wanted Morata when we were first linked, lots of complaints about the insane price for Madrid's backup striker and listing his scoring record at Juve. It was just over the month we were "getting closer and closer" to signing him that more and more people came round to the idea.
And now that he's moving to another PL team, the "grass is always greener" guys are jumping on the Morata train as well.
Can you split into starts and mins played etc?Lukaku - 34 all comps.
Morata - 27 all comps.
Do you think his record against the top 6 will improve now he's at United?And so can Lukaku. You don't become an international footballer without being able to control a football.
Scored more goals than other strikers against top 6.Do you think his record against the top 6 will improve now he's at United?
He hasn't done so well in that regard.
If I remember correctly, his record against top 6 is one of the best in the league last season. From the top of my head I can remember goals against City, Chelsea, Arsenal and Spurs in different competitions. He's been poor against us though and that seems to skew a lot of opinions I feel.Do you think his record against the top 6 will improve now he's at United?
He hasn't done so well in that regard.
Morata hasn't been consistent and can forget he's playing a team sport but he's threatening in the air, good combination of pace and bulkiness, good striking technique, and hard working. Excellent in big games for Juventus and great scoring record in youth levels. Both Morata and Lukaku have question marks but I think both set of supporters will be happy long term. Except some posters in caf because they can complain about anything, but that goes without saying.Still not sure exactly why Morata is so highly rated, but hopefully everyone who seems to rate him much higher than I do, turn out to be correct.
I've said numerous times on here than Lukaku will struggle at a good side, I still expect that to turn true.
No idea how Morata will get on for us, genuinely never understood the hype, especially at the price but hopefully he is good for us.
The stats don't lie - yet they perhaps paint a different picture.If I remember correctly, his record against top 6 is one of the best in the league last season. From the top of my head I can remember goals against City, Chelsea, Arsenal and Spurs in different competitions. He's been poor against us though and that seems to skew a lot of opinions I feel.
Against big teams if we decide to park the bus, he won't do well. If we gain control and dominate the midfield, he's a box striker and he'll be lethal. He occupies both centre backs due to his physicality alone. If we plan to stick 10 men close to our box and leave Lukaku alone by himself, he'll do nothing.
Regardless of top 6, we'll have 26 league games against non-top-six teams and they all count for 3 points.
Juries out imho.Just four of his 25 goals last season came against the big clubs with his strike against Arsenal on the final day of the season coming from the penalty spot. During the 2015-16 campaign, Lukaku grabbed 18 goals in the league with just one coming against the top six in a 1-1 draw with Liverpool.
What about Rashford vs Inehacho?Plus they rarely end well! Such gems include Welbeck v Sturridge, Januzaj v Sterling and Depay v Firmino (bit of a theme there ).
It's clearly wrong.The stats don't lie - yet they perhaps paint a different picture.
Juries out imho.
No striker scored more goals against the top six and only hazard, alli, and sigurdsson scored more against the top six.The stats don't lie - yet they perhaps paint a different picture.
Juries out imho.
Was that a thread? In that case that turned out okay for us. There was also Di Maria vs SanchezWhat about Rashford vs Inehacho?
Morata rating rose(at least here on the Caf) because he got linked to us. Initially people weren't that thrilled about the large sum quoted for Morata, then naturally people started trying to get around that decision and made themselves accept his high price.Still not sure exactly why Morata is so highly rated, but hopefully everyone who seems to rate him much higher than I do, turn out to be correct.
I've said numerous times on here than Lukaku will struggle at a good side, I still expect that to turn true.
No idea how Morata will get on for us, genuinely never understood the hype, especially at the price but hopefully he is good for us.
The stats don't lie - yet they perhaps paint a different picture.
Juries out imho.
Just to add to my previous post;It's clearly wrong.
Liverpool were not in top 6 in 2015-16 season, they finished 8th.
He scored 1 vs Leicester, 2 vs Southampton (6th in the table).
Didnt he put 3 past you when he was at West Brom in SAFs final game?If I remember correctly, his record against top 6 is one of the best in the league last season. From the top of my head I can remember goals against City, Chelsea, Arsenal and Spurs in different competitions. He's been poor against us though and that seems to skew a lot of opinions I feel.
He sure did. At Everton though he was usually crap against us. Think he missed a penalty against us in the FA Cup semi final too.Didnt he put 3 past you when he was at West Brom in SAFs final game?
I think Morata'll do wonders for Pedro next season. We'll see numbers on par with his peak at Barca.Didnt he put 3 past you when he was at West Brom in SAFs final game?
Yh he's definitely overrated on here. A good player but a shadow of the player Costa is, for all his flaws.Morata rating rose(at least here on the Caf) because he got linked to us. Initially people weren't that thrilled about the large sum quoted for Morata, then naturally people started trying to get around that decision and made themselves accept his high price.
In order for that to happen people started rating him higher than they were before and it caught on. Since then Morata has become one of those very highly rated players, sometimes even higher than those with better stats then him like Lukaku who happened to be proven a better striker. Of course people will bring all round play to try and even things out.
But go back 2 months ago before us being linked to Morata and he wouldn't have been rated anywhere near as highly as he is currently on the Caf.
In 2015-16 season Lukaku scored 18 league goals for Everton while Morata scored 7 for Juventus in the league, total 12 goals in all competitions. Morata scored two goals against top six and one of them was a penalty.The stats don't lie - yet they perhaps paint a different picture.
During the 2015-16 campaign, Lukaku grabbed 18 goals in the league with just one coming against the top six in a 1-1 draw with Liverpool.
Juries out imho.
Thanks Mina.European football journalist Mina Rzouki on BBC Radio 5 live
If you offered me the choice between Morata and Lukaku, I wouldn't even think about it.
I would pay £20m or £30m more if I had to and I would bring in Morata.
That is because I would always prefer an intelligent player in my team. Even if he doesn't score as many goals, even if he doesn't do whatever he needs to.
If he is more intelligent then he can be moulded quicker, he can do what he needs to do. And Morata has Champions League experience. He was second top scorer for Real Madrid despite not starting.
He has done it at Juventus and he has done it at Real Madrid.
He understands, he has the pace, he is intelligent, he links up play, he can be a counter-attacking threat.
And one of them was playing for Juventus and one for Everton.In 2015-16 season Lukaku scored 18 league goals for Everton while Morata scored 7 for Juventus in the league, total 12 goals in all competitions. Morata scored two goals against top six and one of them was a penalty.
Hat-trick against the champions at the time.Didnt he put 3 past you when he was at West Brom in SAFs final game?
Yet in relation to other top strikers in the league he was better, so I don't understand your point.The stats don't lie - yet they perhaps paint a different picture.
Juries out imho.
I am saving your post for the end of the season, however I will take the title over Lukaku outscoring Moratta any day.Lukaku will get 10 more league goals that Moratta. Quote me.