Romelu Lukaku vs Alvaro Morata 2017/18

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Pepsi vs Coke. Always... But yeah I would still Lukaku the bigger success at United. 27 goals a season is a mean feat not.
 

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I don't think those statistics accurately represent just how shite Morata actually was for Chelsea.
Well those stats are kind of accurate as it shows both have been shite, one margainly less so.
 

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Hardly “margainly”. Those stats show a big gap between them.

I reckon throwing assists in the mix would make the gap even more evident. Has Morata got any assists?
As per transfermarkt: none this season, six last season, so very few for Chelsea. Looks notably different for his career as a whole though: 82g - 37a in all major competitions.

Hope he can find his feet again at Atletico, I like him.
 

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No one wins this debate. At least Chelsea have cut their losses and will most likely only take a £10m hit on the Morata deal. We'd be lucky to get a little over half of what we've paid for Rom.
 

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Well those stats are kind of accurate as it shows both have been shite, one margainly less so.
As @Pogue Mahone alluded to, once you throw Lukaku's 13 assists into the mix in comparison to Morata's 6 you get an even clearer picture of how comparatively shite he was for your lot but feel free to keep pretending otherwise.
 

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No one wins this debate. At least Chelsea have cut their losses and will most likely only take a £10m hit on the Morata deal. We'd be lucky to get a little over half of what we've paid for Rom.
This is really the crux of the debate. Both sides would have been much better off if they went for a cheaper alternative instead of these two, and bided their time until someone better become available. As it is stands now, Chelsea did the right thing. Whether we will cut our losses with Lukaku, who knows?
 

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Both overrated it seems.
Don't see how this is the case. Plenty saw the shortcomings of Lukaku but acknowledged his very good goalscoring record. Those who rated Morata on the other hand based it off nothing but hopes and dreams (and that one run against Bayern Munich). Still now you have some talking about Morata being more 'technical' or having a 'higher ceiling', the guy has a wayward touch, can't hold up the ball, can't finish, can't link the play. He's the definition of average and the only thing he excels at is heading.
 

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Don't see how this is the case. Plenty saw the shortcomings of Lukaku but acknowledged his very good goalscoring record. Those who rated Morata on the other hand based it off nothing but hopes and dreams (and that one run against Bayern Munich). Still now you have some talking about Morata being more 'technical' or having a 'higher ceiling', the guy has a wayward touch, can't hold up the ball, can't finish, can't link the play. He's the definition of average and the only thing he excels at is heading.
And yet hes managed to sign for the second best team in Spain and will play in the Champions League...what is it that Simone is not seeing that you are? or should that be the other way round..
 

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Morata couldn’t deal with the physicality of the league. I dont think he is a bad player.
 

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And yet hes managed to sign for the second best team in Spain and will play in the Champions League...what is it that Simone is not seeing that you are? or should that be the other way round..
Best team in Italy and arguably best 3 in Europe wanted Darmian, means nothing.
 

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And yet hes managed to sign for the second best team in Spain and will play in the Champions League...what is it that Simone is not seeing that you are? or should that be the other way round..
Conte thought he saw whatever Simeon thinks he seeing to be fair.
 

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As @Pogue Mahone alluded to, once you throw Lukaku's 13 assists into the mix in comparison to Morata's 6 you get an even clearer picture of how comparatively shite he was for your lot but feel free to keep pretending otherwise.
Ultimately it doesn't really matter now.

We have rectified our error and got rid of him, you guys are yet to do the same although unfortunately I can see that changing this summer.
 

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Best team in Italy and arguably best 3 in Europe wanted Darmian, means nothing.
You mean the newspaper articles written every window that you take at facevalue but has never come to pass. Darmian is still at United. Morota left Chelsea to join the second best in Spain.
There's clearly a player in there otherwise Real Madrid, Juventus, Chelsea & Atletico wouldn't be on his resume
 

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You mean the newspaper articles written every window that you take at facevalue but has never come to pass. Darmian is still at United. Morota left Chelsea to join the second best in Spain.
There's clearly a player in there otherwise Real Madrid, Juventus, Chelsea & Atletico wouldn't be on his resume
We aren't talking about some random papers, Juventus, Inter interest is reported by some of the most reliable journalists.

Of course there is a player somewhere, he was good for Juventus and since he joined Chelsea, he has been nothing but average to poor player.
 

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We aren't talking about some random papers, Juventus, Inter interest is reported by some of the most reliable journalists.

Of course there is a player somewhere, he was good for Juventus and since he joined Chelsea, he has been nothing but average to poor player.
Nothing but Twitter click bait, thats how the modern media works. Fact is theres been speculation after every window for the last 3 years, but he hasn't moved

Morienties was average as well for Liverpool. Don't put too much stake in English football as some kind of pinnacle.
 

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Hopefully they'll end up facing off in the champions league final at the Wanda. Then we can decide once and for all which one is the greatest on earth :lol::lol:.
 

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Nothing but Twitter click bait, thats how the modern media works. Fact is theres been speculation after every window for the last 3 years, but he hasn't moved

Morienties was average as well for Liverpool. Don't put too much stake in English football as some kind of pinnacle.
No, that's now how it works. Just because 2 clubs didn't agree on fee doesn't mean it was bs.

Not even sure what your second point is meant to be, looks like you are arguing some imaginary points.
 

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No, that's now how it works. Just because 2 clubs didn't agree on fee doesn't mean it was bs.

Not even sure what your second point is meant to be, looks like you are arguing some imaginary points.
:lol:

Imaginary, says the person trying to apply speculation to something that actually has happened..
The point is everyone that writes off Morata is because he had a average spell in England yet still had a top club who wanted him
 

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:lol:

Imaginary, says the person trying to apply speculation to something that actually has happened..
The point is everyone that writes off Morata is because he had a average spell in England yet still had a top club who wanted him
:lol: Speculation.

Of course it's imaginary points. Saying I think PL is some pinnacle of football or some shit.

I said there is a player somewhere, so I for one didn't write him off. Saying that he has been nothing but average to shit for Chelsea. If Juventus sign Darmian, that doesn't mean Darmian wasn't average here.