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How did this joke originate?Meh...when is the last time an Italian striker did anything of note in the Prem?
How did this joke originate?Meh...when is the last time an Italian striker did anything of note in the Prem?
Morata is the better overall player in my book but Lukaku is better suited to Mourinho's side. I'd pick Lukaku for us but Morata if I was building a side from scratch.I prefer the striker Chelsea have got, sadly.
And I have the feeling the majority of the caf preferred Morata when we were linked with him with a shift having happened now.
I seem to remember not that many wanted Morata when we were first linked, lots of complaints about the insane price for Madrid's backup striker and listing his scoring record at Juve. It was just over the month we were "getting closer and closer" to signing him that more and more people came round to the idea.I prefer the striker Chelsea have got, sadly.
And I have the feeling the majority of the caf preferred Morata when we were linked with him with a shift having happened now.
Yes it will be the same discussions repeated every time one of them scores and the other doesn't, especially if it happens in a week that one of clubs wins and the other loses/draws.Oh god this thread is going to be horrible isn't it.
Agreed. Im also sure that Morata snubbed us and Lukaku was tempted only by money we offered.Lukaku will score 10. Any thing more is a bonus. I fully expect Morata to get 50 given his pedigree.
IIRC pass completion also includes headers, so obviously it would be on the lower side for Lukaku. For example Lukaku 136 headers vs 23 for Morata, so no one knows whether the header won was completed pass or misplaced pass.Not sure how much credence people give Ted Knutson and his radars, but this is what they look like for their 2016/17 seasons. Obviously massive caveats have to apply given the respective quality of the teams around them, but the stark difference in passing ability stands out as something Lukaku needs to improve on hugely if you ask me. I'd still probably argue that Lukaku has the higher ceiling just due to how physically dominant he can be, but technically Morata is comfortably the better player at the moment.
I could have sworn they separate them out into aerial duels but perhaps I'm wrong; if so that would go some way towards explaining the discrepancy.IIRC pass completion also includes headers, so obviously it would be on the lower side for Lukaku. For example Lukaku 136 headers vs 23 for Morata, so no one knows whether the header won was completed pass or misplaced pass.
Lukaku create more chances and completes more dribbles per game, also wins more aerial duels.
He can control a football. That much is true."Morata is a better footballer but..."
Repeat something enough and it may become true.
They include headed passes, flick ons, lay offs.I could have sworn they separate them out into aerial duels but perhaps I'm wrong; if so that would go some way towards explaining the discrepancy.
There are definitely advantages for Lukaku as well; there's absolutely not a clear cut winner or loser here. They're very different stylistically, and much will be down to the respective managers to get the most out of them.
Gotcha, thanks for the info! Wonder what the numbers would look like only including passes played with feet; that would be much more informative. Seems Lukaku is probably being penalized for contesting headers...They include headed passes, flick ons, lay offs.
http://optasports.com/news-area/blog-optas-event-definitions.aspx
http://www.squawka.com/football-stats-definitions
Yeah, that's very hard to get. Not sure where either.Gotcha, thanks for the info! Wonder what the numbers would look like only including passes played with feet; that would be much more informative. Seems Lukaku is probably being penalized for contesting headers...
I'm sure those graphics are massively influenced by the team strikers play for. In a team as dominant as Real all their attacking players will have incredible stats because they're so much more involved than players at lesser teams.Not sure how much credence people give Ted Knutson and his radars, but this is what they look like for their 2016/17 seasons. Obviously massive caveats have to apply given the respective quality of the teams around them, but the stark difference in passing ability stands out as something Lukaku needs to improve on hugely if you ask me. I'd still probably argue that Lukaku has the higher ceiling just due to how physically dominant he can be, but technically Morata is comfortably the better player at the moment.
As well as standard of the league.I'm sure those graphics are massively influenced by the team strikers play for. In a team as dominant as Real all their attacking players will have incredible stats because they're so much more involved than players at lesser teams.
Plus they rarely end well! Such gems include Welbeck v Sturridge, Januzaj v Sterling and Depay v Firmino (bit of a theme there ).Is it just me who finds the whole something v something threads very unnecessary and childish?
Yeah absolutely. As @roonster09 also pointed out, Lukaku also goes for more headed passes as well, which is a higher degree of difficulty that will depress his stats and further complicate the comparison. I'd probably totally discount the touches in the box stat, since teams would sit so deep vs Madrid as opposed to Everton, for instance.I'm sure those graphics are massively influenced by the team strikers play for. In a team as dominant as Real all their attacking players will have incredible stats because they're so much more involved than players at lesser teams.
Yeah Morata is 6'2" and quite rapid.For someone who truly knows very little about Morata- does Morata have either the physicality to make it in the PL or otherwise the speed to make up for a lack thereof? I keep hearing about his technical abilities supposedly being well ahead of Lukaku but RvP was arguably one of the most technically gifted strikers we have ever seen but clearly benefited from an increase in sheer strength in getting himself to that higher level. (the brawn he always had it seems)