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Ronaldo: Stay or go?
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Calm down it's a joke... What is your answer for both will he or should he?
It's not a simple question to answer....
If Ronaldo is prepared to sit out and share game-time with another CF then I'd say let's keep him for another season.
If he's going to insist on playing every minute of every game and throw a massive sulk when he doesn't then thanks for the memories and time to move on
When we overplayed him over Christmas his form was horrible, clearly needs longer between games now. One great performance a week is much better than two average performances.
If Ronaldo is prepared to sit out and share game-time with another CF then I'd say let's keep him for another season.
If he's going to insist on playing every minute of every game and throw a massive sulk when he doesn't then thanks for the memories and time to move on
When we overplayed him over Christmas his form was horrible, clearly needs longer between games now. One great performance a week is much better than two average performances.
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Dunno for both. For the same reason. All depends on how willing he is to accept a situation where he’s in and out of the team and not guaranteed to start whenever he wants.
I definitely don’t think he should be our first choice number 9 next season. That would be a terrible idea.
Agree he shouldn’t be our first choice striker next season but I don’t think we can really justify 700k a week or whatever he’s one for a rotation option. He either starts every game, which he shouldn’t, or he needs to be binned.
This is what some of his fans don't seem to understand: most United fans would be fine with this (I can't back it up with stats, but I'm pretty sure it's true).
I want him to stay. I know he's not the future, but he can be a positive influence in the dressing room during the start of the rebuild. He's still immense and a pure winner - that's infectious. We will have a lot of new faces coming in, Ronaldos presence would be highly valuable.
I want him to stay, the mans a machine and has literally carried for at points this season.... If ETH want's him I think they can work something out. Ronaldo would love to be the returning player that helped to get us back on our feet.
I won't lie I kinda expected you to say no to both...
Exactly, why let go of a guy who literally has built a career if winning at all costs and nothing less. His reaction to Rooney in 2006 showed us early signs of his winning mentality.
Of course there are games when he is in a mood, but they are few and far between. Even then he still finds a way to score.
Plus, younger players coming in and seeing the work rate and determination to be the best is better than showing up to watching Lingard, Rashford and Pogba doing some stupid dance after a horrible 2-1 loss to relegation fodder.
I really hope he stays as he is a fantastic player...so I voted yes more out of hope than expectation. I expect he will be the centre piece at one of PSG/Real or Bayern next season.
Sounds like Ronaldo (sort of) agrees.
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Wonder where Ronaldo thinks he should be fitting in.
Noooooooooooo
Have long been thinking that keeping Ronaldo for at least another season would be a sensible decision for three reasons:
1. Goals
2. Leadership
3. Culture
The question was always whether he would be open to a reduced role compared to this season. But I was fortunate enough to watch him in-person last night and after that it's hard to think it's anything but a necessity to keep him here. Aside from an outstanding performance overall, the on-field drive and leadership you don't see on broadcasts was standout. Until we get another player to come in and become accustomed to what it means to play for Manchester United it's vital we keep Ronaldo around.
1. Goals
2. Leadership
3. Culture
The question was always whether he would be open to a reduced role compared to this season. But I was fortunate enough to watch him in-person last night and after that it's hard to think it's anything but a necessity to keep him here. Aside from an outstanding performance overall, the on-field drive and leadership you don't see on broadcasts was standout. Until we get another player to come in and become accustomed to what it means to play for Manchester United it's vital we keep Ronaldo around.
If you look at it who has consistently performed over all the games we have played its De Gea, if you want to choose over the last 2 months and probably his 1st 2 or so months you would say Ronaldo mainly down to the CL games he played during that period rather than the league.
Prior to recent games from 12/03/22 (Spurs) he scored 9 goals in 23 games and went 8 PL games against mostly the weakest teams in the league with 1 open play goal and as i said he has done well in recent weeks but that shouldnt discount what happened prior to this further as i said if he could accept a lesser role in the team he'd benefit the team 100% but his own actions over the year have near proved he doesnt want that.
If he was in even 1/2 the form he was in now we could have been in the CL positions still, turn some of the draws against Newcastle, Watford, Burnley and Southampton into wins and we wouldnt have been knocked out the FA cup by Middlesbrough and thats not just on him but he is our primary goalscorer who near demands to play week in week out so when he doesnt score it begs the question to be asked in my opinion, mostly i think the form he shown in recent weeks is due to reduced game schedule and if he near demands to play every week we will see some of those same performances over the winter period again next year.
So you think our keeper has been our best player in a season in which we've conceded 52 goals ?
I think stay, so I voted stay. And I also hope stay.
Currently nobody is touching the £500k per week range he currently gets at United. And I think he'll Tom Brady it and play until his mid-40's. So he should stay with United the next season or two on the huge wages and playing at a high level. Then go to USA for a few years.
Currently nobody is touching the £500k per week range he currently gets at United. And I think he'll Tom Brady it and play until his mid-40's. So he should stay with United the next season or two on the huge wages and playing at a high level. Then go to USA for a few years.
Have you seen our defence?
I am not even sure about the idea of some striker sharing the role with him. Who would do that though? Unless we sign some no-name who you would expect to be good within a couple of seasons?
We should go for a well-established striker, or not be worried about what Ronaldo will do. But who will that be? I have no idea. Saying we need two strikers is all good, but it won't happen next season for obvious reasons.
We should go for a well-established striker, or not be worried about what Ronaldo will do. But who will that be? I have no idea. Saying we need two strikers is all good, but it won't happen next season for obvious reasons.
Considering his age he is still good. Probably not even top 10 right now but still I don't think United can get a top 10 player to replace him anyway.
He has faced the most shots in the league you want to blame him for all the goals and not the team.
Also no rebuttal on my other points actually about Ronaldo
Strange way to look at it given goals conceded is reflective of collective rather than individual performance. It tells you nothing about how De Gea has performed within that collective.
I mean we've also scored the fewest amount of league goals in about five years, does that disqualify Ronaldo from being POTY given he's our main goalscorer?
I don't have a rebuttal. All I need to know is that he's been our most effective player by a country mile. His numbers this year are pretty much identical to his first year at Juve, so it would mindbendingly counterproductive to take the position that he should leave.
I don't think De Gea has been our best player, especially not in a year when we've shipped over 50 goals. He's been better of late compared with the past couple of years, but that's quite different from being our best player. We are a team in transition and need to hang on to our main attacking threat for next year given that we know several other strikers are already leaving.
Ffs, so we reckon he's off then?
Noooooooooooo
Think his best(and probably only perfect) position currently is in a 4 4 2 alongside a classic CF.
You are looking at what he is doing in this United team. With a fully functional team he may not be needed to do all that running he is trying to do now.
If the new manager wants to press its everyone or there is no point, there is no such thing as a bit of pressing you need all 10 outfield players
A 4-4-2 like the one Zidane utilised in his final 2 seasons at Madrid (which was a 4-4-2 diamond). That got the maximum out of the post 30 year old version of him.
That’s weird. Surely he doesn’t think he should be getting up and down the wing at his age?! Can’t think of any other position he could play other than as a number 9.
Think he's best in almost a free role, with a central striker up top.
Ronaldo has always preferred to play with a no. 9 but he wants this player to give up being the focal point of the final ball.
Yeah, I mean....I don't think he'd feel the need to clarify this otherwise to be honest.
urghhh do you think? His instagram post last night doesnt suggest he’s going anywhere but as you say, strange to clarify that specifically. I wonder what he did say.
This.
I have seen the start of the press that Johan Neeskens started at Ajax and the refinement of it there. The press is very organised and each player has a box or area they press. Not a lot of running but it's mostly cutting off the space. Look at Haller. He doesn't do that much of running either.
What we see at United is not pressing. It's running like a headless chicken.
Ah I mean I havent a clue to be honest, but....clarifying that....just seems a little bit off to me. I think he said "come on, finish" to the cameraman when he was following him around.
That in combination with the apparent tears at the end of the game seems a bit weird for a guy who's staying. Who knows though, I hope I am wrong !!
Yeah, that's a fantastic shout actually. If we get rid of the 500k p/w Ronaldo is on we can re-sign Pogba and half of Lingards left testicle and obviously that's going to be a huge help next season.
I don’t think he thought he would be playing every game. Martial being horrible and leaving, Rashford being Championship, Lingard being a punk ass leaking shit, Greenwood being a psychopath, and other things lead to his season having moments where his age was showing.
He probably doesnt know if he's staying yet if he hasn't spoken to ten Hag.
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