Rahul
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http://sport.independent.co.uk/football/comment/article2447654.ece
Bit of a read, granted. But a good read.
Bit of a read, granted. But a good read.
No.Ronaldo is already better than Cantona, as much as I love him.
yes, SET to outshine Cantona, not saying he ALREADY HAS outshined them both.Eric Cantona and David Beckham were, in different ways, and at different times, the standard of excellence at Old Trafford - Cristiano Ronaldo looks set to outshine them both
One really good season and he is set to outshine Cantona.
No, not yet, only time will tell.Ronaldo is already better than Cantona, as much as I love him.
so there is no chance that ronaldo can be as good as Cantona?I can say without a shadow of a doubt that he will not be as good as Cantona. I don't even base that on anything, i can just say that, without evem seeing Best or Edwards live, he is the greatest player to have ever worn the shirt.
Yes, he is. I know it's not appealing that a 22 year old Portuguese kid who possibly wont be playing for us in a few years is already better than the great man himself, but it's true. If you define "best" as the most influential to a team's performances & results, then he's the best player I've seen at United. I think Rooney is the better all-round player, but Ronaldo's attributes make him virtually unplayable at the moment.
He won't be as great.so there is no chance that ronaldo can be as good as Cantona?
so ronaldo should've been born about the same time as Cantona, so you could have seen what Ronaldo could've done for United? Cantona's contribution to us is not in dispute, but you can't fault a player because he wasn't born in the same time as Cantona and 'didn't set the wheels in motion'. In footballing terms, he has every chance to be as good as the great Cantona, and that's what I meant, his footballing ability.He won't be as great.
Ronaldo is brilliant and i like everything about him. But Cantona......
We would not be as we are now if it wasn't for Cantona. There isn't a chance in hell we would be playing Milan in the semis of the Champions League soon without Cantona. We would never have won the treble, despite him retiring two years prior to it. I doubt we would have won half the amount of Premiership titles that we have done.
He is what set the wheels in motion and made us a great team. His contribution still stands.
Now thats just silly.He won't be as great.
Ronaldo is brilliant and i like everything about him. But Cantona......
We would not be as we are now if it wasn't for Cantona. There isn't a chance in hell we would be playing Milan in the semis of the Champions League soon without Cantona. We would never have won the treble, despite him retiring two years prior to it. I doubt we would have won half the amount of Premiership titles that we have done.
He is what set the wheels in motion and made us a great team. His contribution still stands.
I understood from the beginning that the authors intention was to say that Ronaldo well be as good as Cantona some day.yes, SET to outshine Cantona, not saying he ALREADY HAS outshined them both.
of course it doesn't, only time will tell if he can be as good as Eric, but he has every chance to be so.I understood from the beginning that the authors intention was to say that Ronaldo well be as good as Cantona some day.
Therefore, my reaction is still the same; one season doesn't really prove anything when you are comparing him to Cantona.
I agree with all my heart! Ronnie can become big but not bigger, yet!He won't be as great.
Ronaldo is brilliant and i like everything about him. But Cantona......
We would not be as we are now if it wasn't for Cantona. There isn't a chance in hell we would be playing Milan in the semis of the Champions League soon without Cantona. We would never have won the treble, despite him retiring two years prior to it. I doubt we would have won half the amount of Premiership titles that we have done.
He is what set the wheels in motion and made us a great team. His contribution still stands.
Ronnie has all the skills as the best player, but Cantona has more than skill and his charisma is out of this world! You cant really compare them cos they are very different player. Cantona is a born leader, whereas it's still too early to rate Ronnie as such!Eric Cantona and David Beckham were, in different ways, and at different times, the standard of excellence at Old Trafford - Cristiano Ronaldo looks set to outshine them both
One really good season and he is set to outshine Cantona.
Cantona was always accused of underperforming in Europe, and he won nothing in Europe with us.Pretty good article, learnt a few new facts about Cristiano.
If he stays in this form for the next 5 years (with us) and gets us level on European cups with the dippers then I think we can start comparing him with the likes of Cantona.
until then it's a pretty stupid debate
I really loath people saying that about Eric! Just loath it. It isnt fair to judge the King on that... just not fair. He was only with us for 5 years but he changed our club immensely and historically and his impact is not to be slighted by his European record, ever!Cantona was always accused of underperforming in Europe, and he won nothing in Europe with us.
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We probably wouldn't have won the treble if Cantona never played for us.Now thats just silly.
If Ronnie becomes better than Cantona then he will be a genius. That doesn't make sense.Fergie believes that Ronaldo can not just be the world's best player but can become a genius of the sport like a Pele or a Maradona, if he continues his great form with club and country for the next few years.
Pele or Maradona >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Zidane or fat Ronaldo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Cantona
He may never possibly grow into a genius like Fergie dreams about but can Ronnie become greater than Cantona ? Hell yeah.
Ole contributed more to us winning the treble than Cantona ever did.We probably wouldn't have won the treble if Cantona never played for us.
What i'm trying to say is that Cantona's contribution to Manchester United goes further than his 5 years at the club. We really wouldn't have won anything like the amount of trophies we did in the 90's if it wasn't for Cantona. Even though he retired in 97, he set the ball rolling for more trophies to come.Ole contributed more to us winning the treble than Cantona ever did.
Wrong. Cantona's influence eventually led to us having a side capable of finally conquering Europe for the first time since the 60's. Without Cantona we would never have one a league title and th e Becks, Giggs generation would never have become as good or successful as they became.Ole contributed more to us winning the treble than Cantona ever did.
When the Late Best said that United had finally replaced him by signing Ronaldo. I had my doubts. But by God was he righthttp://sport.independent.co.uk/football/comment/article2447654.ece
Bit of a read, granted. But a good read.
What i'm trying to say is that Cantona's contribution to Manchester United goes further than his 5 years at the club. We really wouldn't have won anything like the amount of trophies we did in the 90's if it wasn't for Cantona. Even though he retired in 97, he set the ball rolling for more trophies to come.
I am certain Fergie would have brought in someone else if Cantona hadnt come to United and we would have still been incredibly successful. Ronaldinho chose Barca but we have Rooney and Ronnie now. The best striker in these shores - Shearer didnt join us but who the feck cares.Wrong. Cantona's influence eventually led to us having a side capable of finally conquering Europe for the first time since the 60's. Without Cantona we would never have one a league title and th e Becks, Giggs generation would never have become as good or successful as they became.
You miss them point. Fergie is still teh same one who signed Cantona. So Fegrie's contribution is not in doubt. we are talking players here. IF Fergei hadn't got Cantona we would have taken loinger to win the league, longer to develop experience in the champions league in Eutope and ultimately we might never have won a treble as early as 99. These moments we are in now could have ended up being our first attempt. Whether you like it or not Fergie's signing of Cantona was the catalyst that finally enabled us to conquer Europe by 1999. The credit is ultimately Fergie's. But he in turn also credit's Cantona's influence is his autoboigraphy. That says it all.I am certain Fergie would have brought in someone else if Cantona hadnt come to United and we would have still been incredibly successful. Ronaldinho chose Barca but we have Rooney and Ronnie now. The best striker in these shores - Shearer didnt join us but who the feck cares.
If the reason for our success is going to be attributed to one man, no one even comes close to SAF as an alternative option.Cantona's influence leading to the treble is all bollocks. It was Fergie who had to make that half time speech in the finals of the CL and who was the one who put the ball in their net in the dying seconds ?