Yes, I think I see what you're saying. Wasn't there something said about WR dropping into MF, too. Do we think he can play in MF? The captaincy decision is interesting, though. Wonder if that was done with 110% confidence or as the best option for the time being, not rocking the boat. Interesting times.
Rooney's Red Card
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) was joined by comedian Ali Woods to look back at the best and worst moments of a rollercoaster season with the annual United Hour Awards.
Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
Maybe because they are UTD supporters and want what is best for the club. Not only do we now loose our captain and a player who it looks like was coming into form for three big games, he will also now almost certainly be playing like a man with a wooden leg in the city match as he almost always plays poorly for a while when coming back from injury or suspension.
The reason people said he should have his pay docked is obvious, I don't know what you do for a living but if you could not go to work for three weeks because you did something stupid and unnecessary would you expect to get paid?
And as for claiming its wrong for people to say they hope he won't get straight back into the team and that means they aren't proper utd supporters I think you mean Rooney supporters. What about the player that replaces him whilst he is out? Do they not deserve our support as much? Are we not aloud to want to see them play well and stay in the team or is it only Rooney we must feel that about? Yes people have gone overboard, it wasn't a particularly dangerous or disgusting incident, but now not for the first time in his utd career we are without a player who can make a huge difference to things because of his own moronic actions and are quite honestly sick of it. Remember the semi final against city for example, we lost, where was Rooney? In the stands because he has less self control than a child, he is supposed to be a grown man FFs and needs to act like one.
His Sunday Times interview could not have been timed worse -
In an interview before Saturday's sending off against West Ham, the Manchester United and England captain said he was "a lot more mature".
"I now know exactly what I want to do on the pitch," Rooney said.
In an interview before Saturday's sending off against West Ham, the Manchester United and England captain said he was "a lot more mature".
"I now know exactly what I want to do on the pitch," Rooney said.
I hope you were putting same argument for pay docking for Keane back in the days. Also, by your logic Suarez should never be allowed to play ever as we will not see someone biting co-workers thrice staying in job or getting job elsewhere so comparing it with other professions is naive.
Yes I was and do think Suarez should have been perma banned.
Just because it's football the dumb feckers should not get paid for doing a job they can not do because they have been retarded
Who knows, maybe some suspended footballers do not get paid for that time...? If the employer thinks so.
Wanting what's best for United includes wanting Rooney to play well....seeing as he plays for United. We're a better with him than without him so yeah hoping he struggles to get back in the team because he did something stupid is a bit moronic.
That is up to club to decide on pay docking etc. I don't see what fans have got to do with it. There are certain guidelines as per which clubs' decide to dock pay and yesterday's incident is nowhere close to that. Moreover, Van Gaal has called it a professional foul and a professional foul doesn't result in pay docking by club. Rooney haters will be sad to hear this, but United official FB page is instead busy celebrating Rooney's 10 years at club today
It would be fair, but I suspect the pampered little darlings would kick up such a stink about it we would have heard. (Not just moaning about Rooney now, lately I find myself in the weird position of loving football but hating nearly all footballers.)
Wanting what's best for United includes wanting Rooney to play well....seeing as he plays for United. We're a better with him than without him so yeah hoping he struggles to get back in the team because he did something stupid is a bit moronic.
So wanting what's best for utd will also include putting him straight back into the team against city? Are you seriously telling me despite the evidence of every single occasion of the last ten years you expect him to come back into the side and play well straight away? And if he doesn't which is almost certain that wanting him back in the team is still what's is nest for utd?
PFA regulations limit fines to 2 weeks don't they?
As it should be celebrated, it's a hell of an achievement and he has been a massive part of our success, doesn't change the fact we are now going to be without him for three games and possibly have him playing like shit for another three while he finds his form again. Almost two months because he is an idiotThat is up to club to decide on pay docking etc. I don't see what fans have got to do with it. There are certain guidelines as per which clubs' decide to dock pay and yesterday's incident is nowhere close to that. Moreover, Van Gaal has called it a professional foul and a professional foul doesn't result in pay docking by club. Rooney haters will be sad to hear this, but United official FB page is instead busy celebrating Rooney's 10 years at club today
I think the phrase is "hoist with his own petard"!His Sunday Times interview could not have been timed worse -
In an interview before Saturday's sending off against West Ham, the Manchester United and England captain said he was "a lot more mature".
"I now know exactly what I want to do on the pitch," Rooney said.
Could be a blessing in disguise, doesn't tend to play well against Everton.
He will be playing 2 England games in between so I don't see the missing fitness part. Also, we have LvG as coach now so he will not allow Wayne to let fitness drift in this 1 month. What can definitely happen though, is losing the form he is in which is sad.
LvG said in post match conference that he talk with Rooney and Rooney said to him he wanted to trip him the way he did it. Maybe it looked bad bud he didn't losed his head, he wanted to stop them from scoring. As LVG said, it could be done in more friendly way but still he was in bad position because Downing raised his leg so Rooney couldn't trip him old fashion way. Nothing wrong with that for me.His Sunday Times interview could not have been timed worse -
In an interview before Saturday's sending off against West Ham, the Manchester United and England captain said he was "a lot more mature".
"I now know exactly what I want to do on the pitch," Rooney said.
And if you don't focus only on red card incident Rooney was the best player on the pitch till that moment and scored lovely goal. So he know what he want to do on the pitch, don't you think so.
Is it official that he will be suspended for 3 games?
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He's not injured, he's suspended. And he'll play for England in during his break. He'll be training for the entire period and I expect he'll be just as good when he comes back. Add that to his excellent record against City and our shockingly open defense and it becomes a very easy choice. Besides wanting Rooney to struggle implies wanting him to not play well.
Nope. Waiting still...not sure if they'll do it today, being Sunday and all.
This is my main issue, I can't see how wanting a replacement who may well be bang in form to keep his place for the city match rather than automatically take a gamble on putting Rooney back in makes someone less of a utd supporter. No one is saying he should never play again but he should not just walk back in if the team is doing well
Perfect example of a delusional Rooney hater who make things up to justify himself.
Keane must be sooo hurt.
At least if you are going to despise the man, spell it right.
If Mata-RvP-Falcao set a awesome chemistry on fire over next 3 games then who knows. It is unlikely though...reasons are manifold. He is captain, has been good so far, fits better than Mata in this diamond formation, against City we will need his tracking back, has great goal scoring record vs them (he has highest goals in Manchester derby ever by a player already I think)
Stop making shit up! No one has said they want him to struggle, and expecting him to play well after missing games despite ten years of evidence is optimistic to the point of foolishness. We all want him to do well and are annoyed precisely because based on the first half yesterday he was playing brilliantly now that will be gone. Also you still haven't said how wanting another utd player who will replace him to do well and keep their place makes someone less of a utd supporter? You appear to think only Rooney deserves that level of support when surely it should apply to all players including Rooney.
That was too funny a comment. I actually laughed aloud. LvG has backed him if anything after yesterday.
And if the team doesn't play well without him then by all means try him straight back in the team. I just think a lot of people are pissed by him being undroppable for ten years, remember after his first transfer request when he played like the bastard love child of Emile Hensley and Ralphe Milne for three months yet kept getting start after start? I hate players being picked on reputation rather than form, not just Rooney but any player. It's the main reason England have been so shit for so long
Are you reading some of the threads and posts round here? There's a bloody poll asking whether people are happy Rooney got sent off ffs!
Why do I want him right back? 1)He's a big game player. 2)His record against City since they won the lottery is brilliant. 3)He provides defensive cover.
Of course, if the RVP, Falcao and Mata all do brilliantly well then you can make a case for him starting on the bench. If that happens you won't see me complaining. I didn't think Mata deserved to be dropped but LVG's decision was justified given our performances. Maybe the same will happen with Rooney.
Then we don't actually disagree
get the beers in ya tartAnd before someone pulls me up on it yes I voted happy he was sent off but I have hanged my mind, never vote in anger kids
I voted happy as well. I really want to see Mata in his preferred position as I feel he could do a better job than Rooney.
Kicking someone in the knee is not serious foul play. Stupid, sure, but it's not in the slightest bit dangerous.
Of course it is. It's kicking an unprotected part of the body with force (and it was with force, it's not like he just tapped him).
It was excessive force for the challenge Rooney should have made, thus it's serious foul play.
It was a little kick, come on, there's no force there at all.
Like I've said it wasn't malicious. There was no intent to hurt him. He tried to commit a professional foul and he mistimed the challenge. But thats not to take away the fact that he did kick him high. He gave the referee a chance to give him a red card.
He's literally booted him in the knee, how is that not force?
Also, that gif is slowed down... the force is clearer at full speed.
I don't know why people keep saying the knee, he kicked Downing square in the crotch. Are people here going to be shocked if he's banned more than 3 games?
I don't know any of you guys can justify anything less than 3 games. That wasn't a professional foul, it was a hatchet job. For feck's sake, clip him, he goes down, the attack is stopped and Rooney gets a card and a lecture..no big deal.
Do something really, really stupid and you can accept the fecking consequences for your stupid ass action.
Do something really, really stupid and you can accept the fecking consequences for your stupid ass action.
What would you expect him to say? Professionally stupid maybe.........
I am a big Rooney supporter but now more than ever they need him at his best, not just as a player but also as the captain. For feck's sake we just got slugged by Leicester fecking City and are in a tough match with West Ham and THAT is when Rooney elects to melt down?
He should know better because he's been suspended for this kind of crap before.
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