Haha, if I was being paid x Millions of pounds and knew I was doing so badly at the job …. And they were real mates (no one knows how often they talk or meet up, I’d argue very rarely) then to be honest it wouldn’t bother me that much.
Roy Keane
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Mctominay learning his trade at 26years of age Keano? Reminds me of the family guy immigration meme
You could say the other pundits are doing their talking for them.
Sounds like your infuriated that I’m supposedly infuriated about ‘mates’ not articulating easily what the issue is. What’s wrong with them questioning what happens in trainin? Why he keeps picking the same players over and over? What’s are system of play? Is that not allowed?
id say that you need to stop worrying about me being annoyed that they talk nonsense.
Give it to Keane and Neville until the end of the season.
He's not 26 mate...
I don't know if I agree.
Keane and Neville both flourished in an environment where player responsibility was tantamount. I genuinely believe both would place far more blame on the players than they would Ole. They've also been managers themselves who have felt let down by players under their stewardship.
I'm sure they're being restrained in their opinions of Ole to some extent but I dont think they'd destroy him anyway. Given free reign Red Nev would go all out on the ownership first whilst keano would be breaking the legs of our midfielders before either got onto Ole
He's almost 25 though he should be a lot better than he is if he is upto being a first team player for United
I think you need to stop worrying about the nonsense they talk.
Maybe you are right. We'll never know anyway
I think you need to stop worrying about my worrying……
I don't think that will be a problem.I muted Michael Owen and Hargreaves earlier cos I didn't want to listen to their workaday analysis and lazy cliches.
I hate the cronyism around the club as much as anyone but to be fair this is the most critical I've seen Keane of the team. He will never call out his mate but this was pretty close.............
haha good, I’m not worth it!
I muted Michael Owen and Hargreaves earlier cos I didn't want to listen to their workaday analysis and lazy cliches.
They drive me mad, if they can’t be impartial don’t go on for that game. I know Sky do it for the banter but they could easily question a lot of aspects with attacking a ‘mate’. They happily slate the players (mostly correctly).
I understand the frustration at him for his perhaps relative reluctance to criticise Ole but I just love it when he tears into Maguire.
Had a good go at Fred. I think he said he'd drop him into the ocean?
Truth.
Everyone is under performing. Even world Cup winners. Its the coaching/management that is lacking not a young academy graduate.
So how many of you would say your friend should lose his job on live tv? The annoyance at Keane and Neville not overtly saying Ole should walk is a bit silly.
If Sir Alex had a Wenger phase towards the end of his career would you want our former players campaigning for SAF to be sacked. This is the real world, friendships and relationships are worth more than your daily dose of entertainment.
If Sir Alex had a Wenger phase towards the end of his career would you want our former players campaigning for SAF to be sacked. This is the real world, friendships and relationships are worth more than your daily dose of entertainment.
Yes I would, but I hate my mates and wish they would stop bothering me
If they can't be objective as pundits they shouldn't be invited to give their opinions. I don't want to listen to ex players bigging their mates up on TV irrespective of how good or bad of a job they've done, that offers absolutely no insight.
Says a lot when I'd rather mute our ex United players and more keen to listen to what the likes of Carragher have to say.
There were a few moments where I thought Roy swore live on air here.
He is a a bit dim as an individual and that's me being courteous.
Well I wouldn't allow my friend to touch any of my acquaintance as a surgeon if I knew he was incompetent at that procedure.
Or maybe some of the passion and intensity might rub off on them.
Roy Keane is employed by Sky Sports to perform as Sky Sports wants him to. It's all a bit pantomime. And it appeals directly to the sky Sports demographic who worshiped such footballers 25 years ago in the 90s. It's all a good watch but nothing more than that.
And remember who Sky have in the studio for these games - an ex self-proclaimed hardman midfielder who had a great career because he was surrounded by a team full of the best players of his era. Then he went on to a managerial career that was a failure and that's why he is sitting in a studio getting all riled up as it looks good for a Youtube video. Actually there's two of them. So that says everything. All Keane talks about is character and all Souness talks about is back in my day. Yawn.
And remember who Sky have in the studio for these games - an ex self-proclaimed hardman midfielder who had a great career because he was surrounded by a team full of the best players of his era. Then he went on to a managerial career that was a failure and that's why he is sitting in a studio getting all riled up as it looks good for a Youtube video. Actually there's two of them. So that says everything. All Keane talks about is character and all Souness talks about is back in my day. Yawn.
I was looking to post this in the McTominay thread. The boy is living a charmed life, being the absolute worst of our midfielders but hardly ever getting criticised. Keano lays into Fred at every opportunity but he and the Sky pundits always have this view that Scott is a good, honest, young player learning his trade.
Apart from powerful running and shooting once every 10 games, McTominay offers nothing
I'd have Keane as caretaker until the end of the season simply for the novelty of the collective pant shitting in that dressing room of lightweights .
Pretty sure McTominay and Fred are similar ages to Petit and Viera when they were at Arsenal in 98. Imagine that battle.
Do me a favour...
would be hilarious and the press conference threads would be gold every Friday!
If a new manager would come in, preferably a more progressive one, if given the option of Fred or McTom and I think the coach would likely opt for the Brazilian.
Fred's got more clear attributes in a pressing /harrying system.
Personally, I don't get Keane's constant criticism of Fred. Sure, he's a level below a long list of very good United midfielders of the past but, when he's on his game, he's certainly a more effective and tactically smarter player than McTom.
Fred's got more clear attributes in a pressing /harrying system.
Personally, I don't get Keane's constant criticism of Fred. Sure, he's a level below a long list of very good United midfielders of the past but, when he's on his game, he's certainly a more effective and tactically smarter player than McTom.
not a chance they’re all too weak minded.
He was absolutely spot on about Fred. Took the words out of my mouth on that one.
One bollocking and the cowards would down tools (even more than now) and Keane would be out in a month.
People generally perform better when you focus on what they’re good at, rather than berating them that they’re not good enough.
My spreadsheets at work don’t improve by having my boss standing over me shouting.
"Battle"? Walkover more like.
Bang on. McTominay gets a pass because he's a young British lad from the academy.
Fred's top level (which admittedly he doesn't hit anywhere near enough) is well beyond McT's.
Yeah so strange. Putting all the blame on Fred but always having an excuse ready for McT.