Russian invasion of Ukraine | Fewer tweets, more discussion

[Sauxees Moi Hui]

They don't need to capture Moscow. They may be holding a city next to Donetsk. Can be a huge problem for the Russian military trying to hold off Ukraine's offensive. Would also be embarrassing for the military if it couldn't defeat them quickly. If this continues, there may be powerful people going over to Prigozhin's side.

There are other alternatives, too. Rule an independent Rostov People's Republic. Or try to capture some nukes. Or who knows what else.

 

[mu4c_20le]

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[WPMUFC]

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Rubio tweeted a lot of Nat Sec stuff previously when the war broke out. US intel community likely watching this in pure amazement.

 

[RedDevilQuebecois]

Oh, Keith, you silly

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[the hea]

Of course.. Just wondering what Prigozhin wants here.

He is apparently unhappy with the military leadership, but surely he cant expect this to end with just a leadership change..

It's all or nothing.

My guess is that he's hoping for the lower rank commanders to join him and get the military on his side through them.

 

[Sir Matt]

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[WPMUFC]

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[RedDevilQuebecois]

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I just can't believe what I've just seen.

 

[WPMUFC]

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[Mike Smalling]

The thread title change

 

[Redplane]

I just can't believe what I've just seen.

Russian youth don't give af

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Probably wondering whether to ticket the tanks for not feeding the meter. I get the confusion.

 

[Carolina Red]

The thread title change

 

[Ian Reus]

You'd think he'd ask for a half day in the circumstances.

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[Raoul]

Why hasn't Vlad called on his barbarian vassals in Chechnya to help out yet ?

 

[Sir Matt]

You'd think he'd ask for a half day in the circumstances.

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When the MOD said they needed street sweepers, I don't think this is what they meant.

 

[Mike Smalling]

You'd think he'd ask for a half day in the circumstances.

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There's something almost heroic about continuing to do such a mundane job under such extreme circumstances. What a guy.

 

[Raoul]

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[Carolina Red]

You'd think he'd ask for a half day in the circumstances.

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In Prigozhin’s Russia, street clean you!

 

[RedDevilQuebecois]

The thread title change

Yeah.

Why hasn't Vlad called on his barbarian vassals in Chechnya to help out yet ?

They must suck a lot worse than anything we could imagine with a fake reputation.

 

[Carolina Red]

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Rubio tweeted a lot of Nat Sec stuff previously when the war broke out. US intel community likely watching this in pure amazement.

The US Intel community right now…

 

[Ian Reus]

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[WI_Red]

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Wagner in the Kremlin?

actually, Wagner Storm Rising is a better fit.

 

[Raoul]

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[RedDevilQuebecois]

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Dayum!

 

[Raoul]

CNN and MSNBC have spent most of the evening trying to squeeze a bit more ratings out of the Titanic sub story than covering a potential coup in Russia.

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[17 Van der Gouw]

If the local Russian military/reserve decide to throw in on Wagner's side, things could get very spicy in Russia over the next few days.

I wonder how the west would react to Putin nuking one of his own cities.

 

[Raoul]

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[The United]

If the local Russian military/reserve decide to throw in on Wagner's side, things could get very spicy in Russia over the next few days.

I wonder how the west would react to Putin nuking one of his own cities.

I can't shake my feeling that we are missing something here. It seems too easy and peaceful so far.

 

[Charlie Foley]

That’s one of my favorite quotes from antiquity

The only way this could be more in my wheelhouse is if Roy Keane tweeted it

 

[17 Van der Gouw]

I can't shake my feeling that we are missing something here. It seems too easy and peaceful so far.

Tin foil hat on, I guess could all be an elaborate show; some kind of distraction or something. Seems doubtful though as this is pretty embarrassing for Putin.

 

[Sir Matt]

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This is insane. So Prigozhin is in Rostov and demanding Shoigu and Gerasimov be handed over/come to meet him.

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[Carolina Red]

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And that’s one of my favorite movie quotes

 

[Devil You Know]

I'm not sure this is a good thing for Ukraine, to be honest.

 

[RedDevilQuebecois]

I don't know how this thing will end for Russia, but I wanted to share this clip from The Crown with a good description of what makes coups feasible or not.

The setting is in 1968, when disgruntled politicians/elites talked about replacing PM Harold Wilson.


Successful coups require 5 key elements: 1) control of the media, 2) control of the economy, 3) the capture of administrative targets, 4) the loyalty of the military, and 5) legitimacy.

I'm not sure this is a good thing for Ukraine, to be honest.

If the MOD yields to his demands, knowing Prigozhin's willingness to go even dirtier with his combat tactics, definitely not.

 

[Wibble]

I'm not sure this is a good thing for Ukraine, to be honest.

How so?

 

[Wibble]

Our PM, Albo, has just told Russia that it should now leave Ukraine. This could have been over ages ago if only someone had thought of this earlier.

 

[Rajma]

Told you that Prigozhin has a real chance, he calculated well.

 

[RedDevilQuebecois]

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God knows what those demands and military decisions are.

 

[Rajma]

Two downed Russian MoD helicopters by Wagner.

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[Rajma]

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