Russian invasion of Ukraine | Fewer tweets, more discussion
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So it’s not going to really achieve anything then, it’s a historic moment in parliament but that’s it
Everything you’ve stated that could occur as a result of this speech are all things that would probably happen anyway
More sanctions are always going too occur
There’s already been a backlash on the visa situation so naturally that would increase
And support for Ukraine is their anyway except involving our militaries
My post didn’t have a point, it was a question
What would this speech achieve, I’m not criticising the Ukraine president doing the speech, I’m just curious as to what it would actually achieve, in truth the Ukraine president is just going to probably get the same response as before which deep down isn’t enough from his perspective.
The historic rally call it was being built up too be has essentially turned out to be a pointless round of applause where the end product is what we were doing in the first place and were going too do.
There’s certainly no harm in any of it of course, but he’s not going to get his NFZ from it which is what he really wants above most other sanctions
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Yeah that got me in the feels too. I had been wondering about any animals that were/are in zoos or sanctuaries and weather there was enough time to get them out before the invasion. Because if not they must be terrified by the explosions and gunfire. It's the same with children as well, both are too innocent to understand what's going on right now.
A lot of Greeks say thatthe only bit I'm interested in is the Swedish part, ignoring his framing of it.
Then you should not quote the moron. You can easily find the same news elsewhere, haha!
Not dismissing the terrible nature of whatever happened here.
But it all seems so staged. The kid started singing so perfectly next to what appears to be a static CCTV pole, the only camera in the area.
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-As if any of this terrible shit would be staged. Insanity.
Heard some awful stories about zoos around Kyiv.
US: Unknown individuals snuck into Rammstein AFB and stole all of these newly acquired, fully loaded out MiG-29s that we just finished refueling. We have no idea how it happened and will begin an investigation into how these mistakes occurred.
Convenience, and I agree with him on other topics (not his handling of the Greek economy).
I'm dreading asking what stories?
Was the F-15 originally but its now well advanced to to the point that its direct competitor now is the SU-35 although the SU-35 is a pretty modern fighter by Russian standards. F-35 is probably a bit above them both.
Pretty much nothing China or Russia has touches the F-22 which is why pretty much the US pulled the pin on the setup because it was just pointless producing an aircraft at that cost with little to no competition and the world heading towards drone plane in the future anyway. The F-22 will probably be the last all out air superiority fighter jet produced by the the USA. The future will look more like the F-35 (multi role) if at all.
Being basically abandoned for the time being.
Russian radar seeing fighter jets enter Ukraine from NATO airspace sounds dodgy to me. Wouldn't they instead be crated up and trucked into Ukraine?
wearing Manchester United kits no doubt.And strangely one pilot was overheard quoting Chappy Sinclair: God doesn't give people talents that he doesn't want people to use. And he gave you The Touch. It's a power inside of you, down there where you keep your guts boy. It's all you need to blast your way in and get back what they took from you.
Is that legit or just rumors?
Getting trucked in would probably result in the Russians picking them off. If they fly in from Germany, they can make the excuse that they picked them up and were allowed to flyover NATO territory en route back to Ukraine.
Heard such on MSNBC while doing other shit, but made me pause. There’s also stories of animals that have made it safely to Poland, so let’s focus on those guys. Better than the alternative.
There must be a good reason why the Polish Mig 29 jets are being sent to Ramstein Base prior to transfer to Ukraine. I understand that these aircraft are to a NATO communication and weapon systems standard. And possibly there is a need to remove certain parts in case some of them get shot down and fall into Russian hands.
But you make a good point.
The word from journos is that Zelenskyy was invited by the PM to do a speech in the Commons after he had already addressed the European Parliament. Make of that what you will as to the motivations. I doubt if we were still in the EU that he would have done a speech to the Commons too!
The simultaneous interpreter didn’t do the best job, but it is always a thankless task. Maybe it should have been pre-recorded and either interpreted or subtitled, especially as there was no back and forth. Zelenskyy’s addresses to the Ukrainian public have been consistently excellent and that didn’t really come across here. Most go up on his Telegram channel with a English subtitled version to follow.
I just can’t believe we have still not moved meaningfully on the visa situation. It’s quite farcical that people cannot just present themselves at the border.
They seem to be managing to truck in missiles (etc) - so why not crated jets?
I'm sorry, I'm probably following these events more than most. This isn't an isolated incident, civilians are being brutally murdered in this fashion on a daily basis (can link you more footage if you like). What's most scary about instances such as this one caught on film is the likely number of similar killings that aren't. Not to mention the indescriminate carpet bombings of residential areas going on as we speak.
So it just blows mind how it can even enter the head of anyone that Ukraine would be staging any video like that for propaganda.
Its perhaps a symptom of a discussion forum that actually bans footage of the topic from being posted.
The "propaganda war" going on here is 95%+ one-sided, a facist state trying to justify the unjustifiable. I understand the assumption that Ukraine would be pushing their own progaganda, as they have every right to if it helps them win this war, but they don't need to here, this is as one sided as it gets. We dont' even know for sure if their russian casualty numbers are exagerated.
Question everything, but stick around for the answers.
Shut your mouth, Galaxy McFlurry is divine.
Missiles and airplanes are obviously very different. You also have the problem of finding airfields from which to fly them and the Russians not finding out where the planes are located. Even if they fly in once from Germany, they are guaranteed to do a lot of damage to Russian vehicles and logistical capacity.
I was worried I wasn’t going to get to try a guilt-free Chicken Big Mac.
The number of big retail, fast food and consumer goods businesses worth boycotting in the UK for still operating in Russia dwindles by the day. Who’s left? Burger King and KFC? Separately you have products from Coca-Cola, Pepsi, Danone, Mondelez and Nestle.
I am a still bit confused as to whether Tesco have stores in Russia.
I have a bad habit of focusing more on negatives than positives sometimes but yes it's very good to hear at least some have got to safety.
Russia having some gains today. Their advance is slower and more delibarate. In the last few days there doesn't seem to be as many videos of them losing vehicles and equipment. Looks like they are becoming serious. Let's see how much they can gain before they are spent. Race against time.
Good thread to remind you why individual people are willing to fight and resist to the very last. You’d think they’d be a bit more warm to living in Putin’s buffer zone.
I don't see one-off suicide runs from Germany being on the agenda. Thinking about it, I reckon an earlier poster could be right - flown to Germany to have certain things added and/or removed. Then they could be flown back to Poland to an airbase close the Ukraine border, then flown by Ukrainian pilots over the border very low to evade radar to the nearest functioning airfield.
Started re-watching the "Russian Roulette" series Vice News did with a reporter as close to the front lines as it possibly gets, from the invasion of Crimea. Simon Ostrovsky is incredible, he even did a week in the gulag.
Highly recommended watch for anyone interested in the 2014 episode of this war, 100+ short episodes.
Highly recommended watch for anyone interested in the 2014 episode of this war, 100+ short episodes.
That's entirely possible, although removing sensitive equipment could just as easily be done in Poland. They also have to be painted to let people know they are now Ukrainian.
With all these Western retail/food/drinks companies shutting up shop, I wonder what the shopping areas of central Moscow are going to look like in a day or two. Does any one know roughly what percentage of the total they represent in Moscow?
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Now where will Russians go to get foamy milk with caramel syrup?