Feels that way. Everyone calling Putin’s bluff and the nut case feels he needs to do something so people actually fear it.Very worrying the way this is going as it looks like Russia are preparing the way for a nuclear attack.
http://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-10-24-22/index.htmlRussia is bringing new military units into Kherson as it prepares to defend the city from any fresh Ukrainian offensive, the head of Ukraine’s Defense Intelligence Agency said in an interview with Kyiv-based news website Ukrainska Pravda.
Maj. Gen. Kyrylo Budanov said that, while Moscow was moving injured people, cash and the Russian-installed administrative authorities and financial institutions out of the city, it was putting more troops in.
“[Russian bank] Promsvyazbank and other financial structures that the Russians brought there are being taken out,” Budanov said.
“They are taking out cash, [internet] servers, the so-called occupation authorities … All the non-walking, seriously injured are being taken out, they are trying to discharge those who can walk as soon as possible from hospitals … They create the illusion that everything is lost,” added Budanov.
“And at the same time, on the contrary, they bring new military units there and prepare the streets of the city for defense.”
https://www.state.gov/joint-statement-on-ukraine-2/Earlier today, the defense ministers of each of our countries spoke to Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoygu at his request. Our countries made clear that we all reject Russia’s transparently false allegations that Ukraine is preparing to use a dirty bomb on its own territory. The world would see through any attempt to use this allegation as a pretext for escalation. We further reject any pretext for escalation by Russia.
Weirdly enough he’s been universally criticized by other parts of Russian propaganda & Simonyan even said that they’re dismissing him from RT.Tweet
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Shoigu has to do something, I guess, it’s not like his trusted with anything else nowadays.Joint statement by the US, UK and France. Wonder why Russia felt bothered to communicate this on such a high diplomatic level rather than just spout it on their state TV.
https://www.state.gov/joint-statement-on-ukraine-2/
Is it though?So Ukraine are going to Nuke themselves (even though they have no Nukes) to turn the world against Russia?
Yeah because Russia are really popular internationally right now.
Even by the standards of Russian propaganda that ones dumb as feck.
But they need to have nukes for them to be able to nuke themselves? The entire thing is toppled at the first obstacle. It’s like me saying I’m going to use my huge cock to end the war.Is it though?
let’s consider the situation:
Ukraine has been crying out for more help from the west since the start of this war. It’s already been very long and costly for them. Russia just conscripted 300k additional soldiers, the Ukrainians don’t have that luxury. after the bombing of the Crimea bridge, Russia decided to turn the screw and precision attack their infrastructure. This means blackouts throughout the country on the daily, and winter is coming. If Ukraine feels they can’t last the winter, a move like this could be their Hail Mary as it would get the west fully involved.
I’m not saying this is true, but let’s not be blind to the possibility that desperate people can do desperate things.
They can make a dirty bombBut they need to have nukes for them to be able to nuke themselves? The entire thing is toppled at the first obstacle. It’s like me saying I’m going to use my huge cock to end the war.
What exactly would be the point of detonating one of their own nukes on their own territory? Blame the West or Ukraine? Show that they are willing to use nukes.... on themselves? I'm struggling to think of any benefit of Russia nuking itself. I mean, benefit for Russia.Feels that way. Everyone calling Putin’s bluff and the nut case feels he needs to do something so people actually fear it.
Again I’m predicting this to occur on Russian soil not Ukrainian if it occurs. He will do everything to make it a non international incident to avoid the insane consequences.
What they could do would be a classic nuclear test.What exactly would be the point of detonating one of their own nukes on their own territory? Blame the West or Ukraine? Show that they are willing to use nukes.... on themselves? I'm struggling to think of any benefit of Russia nuking itself. I mean, benefit for Russia.
Not that I think this is realistic or even feasible, but they could frame that as justification for further escalation. Don't think it makes much sense, but that's pretty much the sole possible reasonWhat exactly would be the point of detonating one of their own nukes on their own territory? Blame the West or Ukraine? Show that they are willing to use nukes.... on themselves? I'm struggling to think of any benefit of Russia nuking itself. I mean, benefit for Russia.
I get what you're saying but don't have Nukes though and everyone knows this. If they still had a Nuclear weapons programme this invasion wouldn't have happened in the first place.It's obviously bullshit, but it's not that incoherent. While Russia is obviously extremely unpopular in NATO-alligned countries, it's also true that their involvement as of now is providing money, equipment and training, while direct intervention is off the table. Biden and other high ups have said that if Russia uses nukes they'll escalate into direct military involvement, so if Ukraine managed to stage a false flag operation involving nukes then that could be a way to get NATO to attack Russia proper. Which they won't, because it's made up.
Imagine the risk of such action — I'm not even talking about the radiation etc., I'm talking about the possibility of this false flag operation being uncovered. How do you think it will impact the popular image of Ukraine and its support in the Western countries?Is it though?
let’s consider the situation:
Ukraine has been crying out for more help from the west since the start of this war. It’s already been very long and costly for them. Russia just conscripted 300k additional soldiers, the Ukrainians don’t have that luxury. after the bombing of the Crimea bridge, Russia decided to turn the screw and precision attack their infrastructure. This means blackouts throughout the country on the daily, and winter is coming. If Ukraine feels they can’t last the winter, a move like this could be their Hail Mary as it would get the west fully involved.
I’m not saying this is true, but let’s not be blind to the possibility that desperate people can do desperate things.
Yes, it makes little sense.Is it though?
let’s consider the situation:
Ukraine has been crying out for more help from the west since the start of this war. It’s already been very long and costly for them. Russia just conscripted 300k additional soldiers, the Ukrainians don’t have that luxury. after the bombing of the Crimea bridge, Russia decided to turn the screw and precision attack their infrastructure. This means blackouts throughout the country on the daily, and winter is coming. If Ukraine feels they can’t last the winter, a move like this could be their Hail Mary as it would get the west fully involved.
I’m not saying this is true, but let’s not be blind to the possibility that desperate people can do desperate things.
Very worrying the way this is going as it looks like Russia are preparing the way for a nuclear attack.
Nah, this is just standard Russian things, there is nothing new here. They've been pushing narratives like this since before it started, all through their Syrian campaign and probably every other theatre they’ve operated in. Sometimes they’ll amplify it with fake videos, sometimes with a few phone calls, it’s all the same.Feels that way. Everyone calling Putin’s bluff and the nut case feels he needs to do something so people actually fear it.
Again I’m predicting this to occur on Russian soil not Ukrainian if it occurs. He will do everything to make it a non international incident to avoid the insane consequences.
the west becoming more involved doesnt help with the power grid so no I dont accept they are planning a false flag.Is it though?
let’s consider the situation:
Ukraine has been crying out for more help from the west since the start of this war. It’s already been very long and costly for them. Russia just conscripted 300k additional soldiers, the Ukrainians don’t have that luxury. after the bombing of the Crimea bridge, Russia decided to turn the screw and precision attack their infrastructure. This means blackouts throughout the country on the daily, and winter is coming. If Ukraine feels they can’t last the winter, a move like this could be their Hail Mary as it would get the west fully involved.
I’m not saying this is true, but let’s not be blind to the possibility that desperate people can do desperate things.
what? It means pushing Russia out of Ukrainian territory.the west becoming more involved doesnt help with the power grid so no I dont accept they are planning a false flag.
Russia telling lie after lie for 8 months now leans me towards them being untruthful this time too.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...rty-bomb-ukraine-russian-agencies-2022-10-24/MOSCOW, Oct 24 (Reuters) - Russian military Chief of General Staff Valery Gerasimov and British Chief of Defence Staff Tony Radakin spoke by phone on Monday to discuss what Moscow called the possibility that Ukraine could use a "dirty bomb", Russian news agencies reported.
Is this new? I thought they already gave that order at the start of the invasion.Just read that Ukraine will begin mobilization now too - everyone under 60.
https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/politics-and-diplomacy/article-720456Israel is growingly concerned by the “dangerous closeness” between Russia and Iran over the supply of drones manufactured in the Islamic Republic to attack Ukraine, and is, as a result, holding daily assessments to review its position on the conflict, Prime Minister Yair Lapid told The Jerusalem Post.
“Part of the work we’re doing has to do with the very dangerous closeness that is being created between Russia and Iran,” Lapid told the Post in an interview on Sunday. “It’s not something we are going to ignore or do nothing about… so what we need to do is reassess on a daily basis and react.”
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Unless Ukraine asks us to mediate, they can feck right off with that proposal."In a letter led by Rep. Pramila Jayapal, the 30 Democrats call on Biden to pair the unprecedented economic and military support the U.S. is providing Ukraine with a “diplomatic push, redoubling efforts to seek a realistic framework for a ceasefire.”
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How much kompromat do they have on US politicians anyway?"In a letter led by Rep. Pramila Jayapal, the 30 Democrats call on Biden to pair the unprecedented economic and military support the U.S. is providing Ukraine with a “diplomatic push, redoubling efforts to seek a realistic framework for a ceasefire.”
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YepFind him, then take him somewhere quiet.
Hopefully, they’ll find themselves in Hague one day.
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Now, Republicans can say the opposite of it since some Democrats took that route?"In a letter led by Rep. Pramila Jayapal, the 30 Democrats call on Biden to pair the unprecedented economic and military support the U.S. is providing Ukraine with a “diplomatic push, redoubling efforts to seek a realistic framework for a ceasefire.”
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