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More Norwegian spy stuff, continuing from:

There's been some talk in here about alleged spying in Norway, with some arrests made. Drones and the like. I don't think much is known about those cases yet, but one person arrested in Svalbard is Andrey Yakunin, son of Vladimir Yakunin who has pretty close ties to Putin (Wiki link). https://www.vg.no/nyheter/utenriks/...-er-en-del-av-putins-absolutt-naermeste-krets

What the cases involving drones mean is hard to say, because with the sanctions it's illegal no matter how benign the filming is so it can be anything. In this specific instance it's also a bit more unclear about the legalities with Svalbard having some laws about discrimination based on nationality that may or may not be relevant here. More on that: https://www.nrk.no/tromsogfinnmark/angriper-droneforbudet_-_-bryter-mot-svalbardtraktaten-1.16145691

Both articles in Norwegian, so you'll have to use a translator if you're interested in details.
13th of October; the military observes a drone around an important gas plant, the drone is way too big to be a hobby drone. Police is investigating, loads of them on the scene. Dramatic. https://www.nrk.no/norge/forsvaret-meldte-fra-om-mulig-droneobservasjon-ved-gassanlegg-1.16138874

28th of October. Looks like it was a commercial airplane. https://www.nrk.no/rogaland/drone-over-karsto-var-truleg-sas-fly-1.16156364

In potentially more serious news, a researcher at the University of Tromsø has been arrested, suspected of being a spy. Allegedly he's Russian, while according to his papers he's Brazilian. Parallells to the show The Americans (which is great) have been made. He was working with stuff related to security and warfare. The GreyZone mentioned in the article is a research group, not the publication that has been talked about in here before. https://www.nrk.no/norge/pst-sikter-spionmistenkt-i-tromso-for-ulovlig-etterretning-1.16156368
 

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More Norwegian spy stuff, continuing from:



13th of October; the military observes a drone around an important gas plant, the drone is way too big to be a hobby drone. Police is investigating, loads of them on the scene. Dramatic. https://www.nrk.no/norge/forsvaret-meldte-fra-om-mulig-droneobservasjon-ved-gassanlegg-1.16138874

28th of October. Looks like it was a commercial airplane. https://www.nrk.no/rogaland/drone-over-karsto-var-truleg-sas-fly-1.16156364

In potentially more serious news, a researcher at the University of Tromsø has been arrested, suspected of being a spy. Allegedly he's Russian, while according to his papers he's Brazilian. Parallells to the show The Americans (which is great) have been made. He was working with stuff related to security and warfare. The GreyZone mentioned in the article is a research group, not the publication that has been talked about in here before. https://www.nrk.no/norge/pst-sikter-spionmistenkt-i-tromso-for-ulovlig-etterretning-1.16156368
He’s a GRU Colonel.

 

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Are they just awarding military rangs like candy or illegals have higher stature among the other officers ?
 

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Feels like a matter of time before the RU defensive lines are broken in northern Luhansk.



Not as many headlines from Zaporizhazhya but they have been bleeding RU here, hopefully in advance of an eventual grand counter-punch.

 

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Feels like a matter of time before the RU defensive lines are broken in northern Luhansk.



Not as many headlines from Zaporizhazhya but they have been bleeding RU here, hopefully in advance of an eventual grand counter-punch.

I feel like the Russians are waiting for the UKR to run out of ammunition. UKR forces need to move soon, or the winter will make it harder for them—both weather-wise and politically.
 

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Expect the calls for negotiations and peace to get louder and louder each day from some of our European clowns. No way they are paying for anything, they just wish for all of it to end no matter how.
 

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Yes but the US economy isn’t going to suffer as much as Europe’s, Germany’s entire industrial base is built on the gas they bring from Russia, even if they can get enough for heating homes, these higher prices have already shut down entire industries.

Meanwhile in the US, natural gas is a byproduct of fracking and is being flared all over the country because the infrastructure to capture it is lagging.

I’m sure having the global reserve currency is helping too, we export our inflation.

Of course each country should do what they can.
 

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That's the next low-grade Netflix Norwegian language spy thriller sorted then.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Funny thing is that the upcoming season of Jack Ryan will make those Russian hardliners/ultranationalists look far more competent than they actually are in real life.
 
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Would be another big blow for Russia if confirmed.

 

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Would be another big blow for Russia if confirmed.

Admiral Makarov and Admiral Essen are the only surface ships currently deployed in the Black Sea capable of lauching cruise missiles, if they have been able to take out one of the ships it will indeed be a big blow to Russias ability to attack Ukraine from the south with missiles.
 

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I thought this was a good interview. Nothing really quite new but key points:
  • Milov thinks that Iran didn't willingly got involved but was pressured by Putin because Putin was helping Iran in several ways and threatened to cut that help.
  • Russian security services tightly under Putin's control so a coup is unlikely and you'd be better off betting on the Russian public to rise up rather than the "elites".
  • Sanctions are extremely hurtful to Russian complex industries but patience is needed.
  • Nordstream damage was message to the West that their infrastructure can be hurt.
  • Nuclear threats to be taken seriously but not exaggerate it because Putin knows it'd be the end of him and India/China/other countries would distance themselves even more from Russia.
  • Forcing Ukraine to negotiate for peace would be celebrated with champagne in the Kremlin as they can regroup and strike again later.

 

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I thought this was a good interview. Nothing really quite new but key points:
  • Milov thinks that Iran didn't willingly got involved but was pressured by Putin because Putin was helping Iran in several ways and threatened to cut that help.
  • Russian security services tightly under Putin's control so a coup is unlikely and you'd be better off betting on the Russian public to rise up rather than the "elites".
  • Sanctions are extremely hurtful to Russian complex industries but patience is needed.
  • Nordstream damage was message to the West that their infrastructure can be hurt.
  • Nuclear threats to be taken seriously but not exaggerate it because Putin knows it'd be the end of him and India/China/other countries would distance themselves even more from Russia.
  • Forcing Ukraine to negotiate for peace would be celebrated with champagne in the Kremlin as they can regroup and strike again later.

 

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The stranger his segments the worse it seems to be going for the Russians. Will be interesting to see his reaction when they lose.
The last one was absolute gold…..it’ll be hard to top, especially as it was full of agonised realisation of how shit they are