I don’t understand why United States and EU have not officially recognized Russia as a terrorist state/organization yet? What else they need to see to make sure? What the heck. I’m raging here.
Russian invasion of Ukraine | Fewer tweets, more discussion
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
I agree with this.
Russia should have waited for the seriously cold weather to hit power supplies. They might have given Ukraine chance to repair some before it comes. I'm assuming a limited supply of cruise missiles though, I suppose.
You clearly don’t have any idea what is going on in Ukraine.
More people died in the Manchester arena bombing than have in many (most?) Ukrainian cities since the start of this fresh invasion.
This is just horrible. Time the West stepped up and started bombing military targets in Russia, or at least draw a fukcing red line and act on it...
I agree. I think we'd get someone even worse (yes it's possible) since I think the hardliners are actually the strongest opposition to Putin. I cannot envision a Putin succesor pulling out of the Ukraine without paying a huge political price.
The former is not going to happen since it'd start WW3. I think the current model of arming the Ukranians is working well enough for most decision makers in the West
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Basically all of the Western and Central Ukraine have barely been touched in recent months and casualties among civilians have been low so far.
I wonder how stray 'stray' turns out to be.
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While that shouldn't spark a NATO military response Russia should at the very least be warned the next time it happens it will spark one. Which should hopefully discourage them from firing inaccurate missiles from the caspian sea.
It is extremely close to the border and they fired rockets at Ukrainian towns that are 15-20 km from over there... so probably just an accident. Polish sources describing it as a tractor explosion for now though.
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Give Ukraine ATACMS missiles now.
Just... why? The launch bases for the missiles aren't in ATACMS range, so I don't understand the connection between those topics
Easy tiger, it's kind of a meme
Because the US has been withholding them to avoid escalation, and now Russia has bombed Poland. Giving Ukraine these missiles would put all of Crimea into range of the Ukrainian forces and would be a reasonable response to Russia’s own escalation. It’s avoids any military intervention by NATO but punishes Russia’s incompetence or malice.
Seems like a less than zero percent chance that Russia deliberately targeted a NATO country. There's nothing to gain, and potentially a lot to lose. I don't think NATO is going to invade Russia or anything, but they could step up arms deliveries to Ukraine.
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Of course, Russia has ample supply in both malice and stupidity so sometimes it's hard to tell...
Either that or NATO entering west Ukraine to create a buffer of some description and really pressuring Russia
So Poland is just supposed to take it up the ass?
Or maybe russia wsnts NATO to get in, win the war, wrap it up and tell the guys "we couldnt do anything against +20 countries. Will get revenge one day"
Much better losing directly to NATO than against ukraine with indirect help
Much better losing directly to NATO than against ukraine with indirect help
I agree that it’s most likely incompetence, but the Russians should account for their weapons’ inaccuracy to when picking targets. They aren’t accidentally bombing Lebanon when they meant to hit Syria. They’re hitting NATO.
doesn’t matter. NATO should target the infrastructure that made the mistake.
Not a chance. They will get a warning. If this happens again, they will get a second warning.
A really stern one, though
A strongly worded letter of condemnation might follow after that.
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The least NATO should do is get the terrorist out of Ukraine as soon as possible.
Hmmm, how hard is it to hit the wrong country
Thread is having a normal one it seems
Who’s the terrorist?
By the way some reports suggest that the cruise missiles were hit/damaged by Ukrainian air defence before hitting Poland.
That's a plausible scenario and should cause everyone to calm down a bit. Russia didn't target Poland, neither on purpose nor by accident, they still "only" attacked Ukraine.
On further thought... let's forget about being reasonable, we should take Königsberg back as a first retaliation.
That's a plausible scenario and should cause everyone to calm down a bit. Russia didn't target Poland, neither on purpose nor by accident, they still "only" attacked Ukraine.
On further thought... let's forget about being reasonable, we should take Königsberg back as a first retaliation.
Something we can all agree on
Russia definitely didn't target Poland.
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Yeah. Most likely it is a recoil or a missed target, very little chance that they hit Poland on purpose. People over here freaking about it a lot but I’m not really buying into any panic over what has happened here (as opposed to what went on with energy infrastructure in Ukraine).
I am not sure about that.
On almost any other day, I would agree with you.
But today, Russia was very heavily criticised at the G20. And Zelenski was remotely addressing G20 saying Ukraine will not give up any of its territory to Russia and intends to fight to the end.
Maybe I am wrong.
But I can visualise a discussion saying - just fire one of the 100 or so missiles over the border into Poland and lets see what the reaction is....
It could be a malfunctioning Ukrainian air defense missiles or it could be a damaged Russian cruise missile that overflew it's target. There is no way of knowing until the Polish military has examined the debris.